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wc-860 & wc-872??
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<blockquote data-quote="Darryl Cassel" data-source="post: 31329" data-attributes="member: 34"><p>Wayne</p><p></p><p>6' or 7" with 8 or 9 shots at 1000 yards don't seem to be to bad at all.</p><p>I have seen relays won at Williamsport with those size groups and all 10 shots held in the group with no flyers. It was in cooler weather though and the temp. range you mentioned. The fellow used a 30/378.</p><p> </p><p>Have you tried other powders and still got one or two flyers in a 10 shot string?</p><p>If so, it may not be the 872 powder and Could be something else?</p><p></p><p>I have always used the 215 Federal primer with that amount of Ball powder and it seems to work well for me even though your ES shows better results with the 210 for you. If it works and not broke, don't fix it.</p><p></p><p>Do you "always" get a flyer or two in a ten shot string?</p><p></p><p>As for me, we don't shoot 10 shots at game, so the flyer situation has never surfaced.</p><p>I use this powder strictly for Longrange hunting for big game in all my rifles. I have tried other powders but, seem to move back to the 872.</p><p></p><p>My accuracy at 100 yards is one cloverleaf hole most times out with any of the big rifles. At the ranges I shoot (1200 to 1500 yards and further) the accuracy is great and the 240 gr MKs in my Tomahawk seems to repeat very well at those ranges.</p><p></p><p>As for the rifles I use the 872 in, here is the list. All have at least 30" barrels and some have 34" and 37". </p><p></p><p>6.5/300 Weatherby</p><p>7mm Mag </p><p>7/300 Weatherby</p><p>300 Weatherby</p><p>300 Tomahawk</p><p>30/378 Weatherby</p><p>338/416 Rigby Imp</p><p>338/416 JK</p><p></p><p>Mickcr</p><p>Large cases have a great benifit when using the slower 872 powders. There are much better powders for the 6mm cartridges though.</p><p></p><p>As for cleaning, I know of one fellow that shot his 7/300 Weatherby in excess of 100 rounds before cleaning and the accuracy was still there.</p><p></p><p>Most of us use our longrange rifles in Colorado and Pennsylvania and then clean them at the "END" of both hunting seasons when we put them away. </p><p>The amount of rounds fired varies but, usually includes a few head of elk and deer, Plinking and spotter shots taken during the two seasons. </p><p></p><p>It's a great cold weather powder for large cases. I have never used it in a 50 BMG cal as I don't own a 50 except my muzzle loader.</p><p></p><p>Later</p><p>DC <img src="http://images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>[ 02-08-2004: Message edited by: Darryl Cassel ]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Darryl Cassel, post: 31329, member: 34"] Wayne 6' or 7" with 8 or 9 shots at 1000 yards don't seem to be to bad at all. I have seen relays won at Williamsport with those size groups and all 10 shots held in the group with no flyers. It was in cooler weather though and the temp. range you mentioned. The fellow used a 30/378. Have you tried other powders and still got one or two flyers in a 10 shot string? If so, it may not be the 872 powder and Could be something else? I have always used the 215 Federal primer with that amount of Ball powder and it seems to work well for me even though your ES shows better results with the 210 for you. If it works and not broke, don't fix it. Do you "always" get a flyer or two in a ten shot string? As for me, we don't shoot 10 shots at game, so the flyer situation has never surfaced. I use this powder strictly for Longrange hunting for big game in all my rifles. I have tried other powders but, seem to move back to the 872. My accuracy at 100 yards is one cloverleaf hole most times out with any of the big rifles. At the ranges I shoot (1200 to 1500 yards and further) the accuracy is great and the 240 gr MKs in my Tomahawk seems to repeat very well at those ranges. As for the rifles I use the 872 in, here is the list. All have at least 30" barrels and some have 34" and 37". 6.5/300 Weatherby 7mm Mag 7/300 Weatherby 300 Weatherby 300 Tomahawk 30/378 Weatherby 338/416 Rigby Imp 338/416 JK Mickcr Large cases have a great benifit when using the slower 872 powders. There are much better powders for the 6mm cartridges though. As for cleaning, I know of one fellow that shot his 7/300 Weatherby in excess of 100 rounds before cleaning and the accuracy was still there. Most of us use our longrange rifles in Colorado and Pennsylvania and then clean them at the "END" of both hunting seasons when we put them away. The amount of rounds fired varies but, usually includes a few head of elk and deer, Plinking and spotter shots taken during the two seasons. It's a great cold weather powder for large cases. I have never used it in a 50 BMG cal as I don't own a 50 except my muzzle loader. Later DC [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] [ 02-08-2004: Message edited by: Darryl Cassel ] [/QUOTE]
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