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<blockquote data-quote="jmden" data-source="post: 434023" data-attributes="member: 1742"><p>Thanks, Scot E. Your experience SHOULD BE instructive to all, but...</p><p> </p><p>Let's no forget that the NRA has made it VERY EASY to contact our president, and federal, state and local politicians by going to: <a href="http://www.capwiz.com/nra/dbq/officials/" target="_blank">http://www.capwiz.com/nra/dbq/officials/</a></p><p> </p><p>Here is a copy of the letter I wrote to the WDFW Commission and (mod. a bit) to Governor Gregoire if that is helpful to anyone for their own ideas:</p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Dear WDFW Commission,</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">I hope you all are doing well and thank you for your service to this state.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">I just received the latest issue of 'Bugle', the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation journal and am shocked at what I see regarding the current recommendation for wolf management in Washington State!</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">I am writing to ask you to direct the WDFW to substantially reduce it's current recommendation of 15 breeding pairs of gray wolves in Washington state to 4 pair or less. Washington has less than half the elk that Montana and Idaho have, yet the current management plan minimum calls for the same number of breeding pairs of wolves as those states have! Oregon, which also has about 2x the elk we have recently settled on 7 breeding pairs as a management objective--yet they have 2x the number of elk that we do!! By that reasoning, Washington shouldn't be asking for more than 3-4 breeding pairs! Where is the ecological wisdom and science in asking for 15 breeding pairs in Washington State! That is completely irresponsible at best!</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">At least follow Oregon's lead and let's be reasonable here! We will voluntarily destroy an elk herd that has taken many decades to produce if this current plan remains in place.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">I would wish Washington would follow Idaho Governor Otter's lead and tell the feds that the WDFW will not partake in wolf management whatsoever. </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">At this point, after a blatant abuse of the ESA, the feds, by using taxpayer and hunter (ironic) money to force a non-native subspecies of wolf down our throats, even after the initial goals or the reintroduction have been met many times over, radical environmental groups are continuing, against their initial word, (they are making huge amounts of money from largely uneducated donors due to the wolf issue) are keeping this issue in the courts and we have judges managing wolves in the west (very incorrectly) vs. biologists (Ed Bangs-who has managed the whole reintroduction from the start) who say that it is well past time to delist.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">It is money from taxes (Pittman-Robertson, among others) and license fees levied on firearms and hunters over the last century that has brought us the current abundance of almost all forms of wildlife today. Sportsman hunting, under the system the US has today has the best track record to restoring depleted wildlife populations than any other system in the world. An overabundance of wolves will seriously change the balance of this system as there will be much less revenue brought in as the hunting opportunities diminish and hunters decide not to hunt due to wolf predation. Wildlife as a whole will suffer as a result due to less revenue.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">I can't help but wonder if many radical anti-gun groups are very much behind wolf reintroduction to try and reduce the number of hunters and potentially the number of guns--another completely uneducated, naive and misguided process of thinking.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">I would encourage you to spend a few minutes researching what wolves really do to elk and deer and their respective populations at <a href="http://www.saveelk.com" target="_blank">Home</a>. Far from just eating what they 'need', wolf packs become wanton killers that waste a tremendous number of elk and deer. There are numerous accounts of cow elk being killed (evidence at <a href="http://www.saveelk.com" target="_blank">Home</a>) and their baby elk being ripped out of them and eaten while the mother is still alive--then the mother is left for dead and not touched. A pack of wolves is similar to a gang in this regard. The general public just does not and has not been given the reality of what wolves do. Talk to folks that go to Yellowstone now and don't see elk or moose at all anymore--once very common. </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">We have got to stand up for the ungulates as well! You can't, in good faith, conscience or science, just be an advocate for the wolf--that is misguided ecology at best!</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Thank you for taking the time to read this.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Regards,</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jmden, post: 434023, member: 1742"] Thanks, Scot E. Your experience SHOULD BE instructive to all, but... Let's no forget that the NRA has made it VERY EASY to contact our president, and federal, state and local politicians by going to: [URL]http://www.capwiz.com/nra/dbq/officials/[/URL] Here is a copy of the letter I wrote to the WDFW Commission and (mod. a bit) to Governor Gregoire if that is helpful to anyone for their own ideas: [FONT=Arial]Dear WDFW Commission,[/FONT] [FONT=Arial] [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]I hope you all are doing well and thank you for your service to this state.[/FONT] [FONT=Arial] [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]I just received the latest issue of ‘Bugle’, the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation journal and am shocked at what I see regarding the current recommendation for wolf management in Washington State![/FONT] [FONT=Arial] [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]I am writing to ask you to direct the WDFW to substantially reduce it's current recommendation of 15 breeding pairs of gray wolves in Washington state to 4 pair or less. Washington has less than half the elk that Montana and Idaho have, yet the current management plan minimum calls for the same number of breeding pairs of wolves as those states have! Oregon, which also has about 2x the elk we have recently settled on 7 breeding pairs as a management objective--yet they have 2x the number of elk that we do!! By that reasoning, Washington shouldn't be asking for more than 3-4 breeding pairs! Where is the ecological wisdom and science in asking for 15 breeding pairs in Washington State! That is completely irresponsible at best![/FONT] [FONT=Arial] [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]At least follow Oregon's lead and let's be reasonable here! We will voluntarily destroy an elk herd that has taken many decades to produce if this current plan remains in place.[/FONT] [FONT=Arial] [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]I would wish Washington would follow Idaho Governor Otter's lead and tell the feds that the WDFW will not partake in wolf management whatsoever. [/FONT] [FONT=Arial] [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]At this point, after a blatant abuse of the ESA, the feds, by using taxpayer and hunter (ironic) money to force a non-native subspecies of wolf down our throats, even after the initial goals or the reintroduction have been met many times over, radical environmental groups are continuing, against their initial word, (they are making huge amounts of money from largely uneducated donors due to the wolf issue) are keeping this issue in the courts and we have judges managing wolves in the west (very incorrectly) vs. biologists (Ed Bangs-who has managed the whole reintroduction from the start) who say that it is well past time to delist.[/FONT] [FONT=Arial] [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]It is money from taxes (Pittman-Robertson, among others) and license fees levied on firearms and hunters over the last century that has brought us the current abundance of almost all forms of wildlife today. Sportsman hunting, under the system the US has today has the best track record to restoring depleted wildlife populations than any other system in the world. An overabundance of wolves will seriously change the balance of this system as there will be much less revenue brought in as the hunting opportunities diminish and hunters decide not to hunt due to wolf predation. Wildlife as a whole will suffer as a result due to less revenue.[/FONT] [FONT=Arial] [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]I can't help but wonder if many radical anti-gun groups are very much behind wolf reintroduction to try and reduce the number of hunters and potentially the number of guns--another completely uneducated, naive and misguided process of thinking.[/FONT] [FONT=Arial] [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]I would encourage you to spend a few minutes researching what wolves really do to elk and deer and their respective populations at [url=http://www.saveelk.com]Home[/url]. Far from just eating what they 'need', wolf packs become wanton killers that waste a tremendous number of elk and deer. There are numerous accounts of cow elk being killed (evidence at [url=http://www.saveelk.com]Home[/url]) and their baby elk being ripped out of them and eaten while the mother is still alive--then the mother is left for dead and not touched. A pack of wolves is similar to a gang in this regard. The general public just does not and has not been given the reality of what wolves do. Talk to folks that go to Yellowstone now and don't see elk or moose at all anymore--once very common. [/FONT] [FONT=Arial] [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]We have got to stand up for the ungulates as well! You can’t, in good faith, conscience or science, just be an advocate for the wolf--that is misguided ecology at best![/FONT] [FONT=Arial] [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]Thank you for taking the time to read this.[/FONT] [FONT=Arial] [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]Regards,[/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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