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Viability of 8mm Mauser (8x57) as a long range round
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<blockquote data-quote="westcliffe01" data-source="post: 1025046" data-attributes="member: 35183"><p>After messing around with milsurp Mauser rifles rather unsuccessfully (barrels typically in bad shape, pitted) and the fundamental problems with mounting a scope I got out that game and ordered a custom 8x57 varmint contour match barrel for one of my Savage actions. </p><p></p><p>If I recall, I paid under $200 for the base rifle (a used 270) and all I had to do was remove the barrel, screw on the new barrel and head space it (5 min job) and drop the action into a new stock. 196gr HPBT Hornady bullets are quite cheap (37c each) and the 200gr SMK are 41c each both being in stock, which one cannot say for a lot of other components today. Brass is readily available too.</p><p></p><p>I have not done too much load development with it yet, but based on the cartridge capacity and the bigger bore vs a 308 or 3006, it is fundamentally a lower pressure round. As mentioned the reloading data tends to be very conservative, given that it is intended to preserve some very old weapons made under highly suspect quality control.</p><p></p><p>For the bullet diameter, the weight is rather light, so it is not a ballistically excellent cartridge and it does what many other cartridges can do. Given the demand for high BC bullets in several more popular diameters, there is basically no chance that Berger or Sierra will even consider making a higher BC bullet. The cartridge does get used for hunting in Europe, but most of the time for much closer shots so there is no need in that market for a better bullet either.</p><p></p><p>I got my barrel because I have a stash of the sniper grade ammunition that cost more than the barrel, even though it was about 50c per round at the time. Berdan primed so no worrying about the brass either. Just a fun rifle with good accuracy..</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="westcliffe01, post: 1025046, member: 35183"] After messing around with milsurp Mauser rifles rather unsuccessfully (barrels typically in bad shape, pitted) and the fundamental problems with mounting a scope I got out that game and ordered a custom 8x57 varmint contour match barrel for one of my Savage actions. If I recall, I paid under $200 for the base rifle (a used 270) and all I had to do was remove the barrel, screw on the new barrel and head space it (5 min job) and drop the action into a new stock. 196gr HPBT Hornady bullets are quite cheap (37c each) and the 200gr SMK are 41c each both being in stock, which one cannot say for a lot of other components today. Brass is readily available too. I have not done too much load development with it yet, but based on the cartridge capacity and the bigger bore vs a 308 or 3006, it is fundamentally a lower pressure round. As mentioned the reloading data tends to be very conservative, given that it is intended to preserve some very old weapons made under highly suspect quality control. For the bullet diameter, the weight is rather light, so it is not a ballistically excellent cartridge and it does what many other cartridges can do. Given the demand for high BC bullets in several more popular diameters, there is basically no chance that Berger or Sierra will even consider making a higher BC bullet. The cartridge does get used for hunting in Europe, but most of the time for much closer shots so there is no need in that market for a better bullet either. I got my barrel because I have a stash of the sniper grade ammunition that cost more than the barrel, even though it was about 50c per round at the time. Berdan primed so no worrying about the brass either. Just a fun rifle with good accuracy.. [/QUOTE]
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