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<blockquote data-quote="Blaine Fields" data-source="post: 17512" data-attributes="member: 183"><p>John,</p><p> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR> I happy with nightforce, I think it is a well made scope. I'm not going to buy the argument, however, that my NF is a mass produced piece of crap and USO is the light years better.</p><p> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE></p><p></p><p>NF is certainly not a piece of crap, by a long shot. I think what SCL was saying was that NF (as well as Leupold, S&B, Zeiss, Swarovski, etc.) have specific models that they market. If you want something a little diffeerent, they can't accommodate you. There is no question that NF puts out a first class scope, however.</p><p></p><p>When I bought my USO variable, because of its size and the size of the adjustable objective, it didn't look right to me to get the scope with a 30mm tube. Even though there was no advantage to my getting a larger tube, nevertheless, simply for the balance and asthetics of it all, I ordered it with a 35mm tube and think it was the right decision. That's what SCL was referring to - the ability to pretty much build out your scope the way you want.</p><p></p><p>I think USO recognizes the problem this creates. First, some people don't know enough to spec out a scope and wind up making mistakes and being unhappy with the final result. Second, this semi-custom orientation comes with a price. So I think (from seeing what is going on at Sniper's Hide) that they are trying to standardize certain configurations in order to make production more economical and thus come into line with other good scope manufacturers who build standard products.</p><p></p><p>But I don't know anyone who says or thinks that NF produces inferior quality scopes because clearly they don't.</p><p></p><p> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR> There are other people who simply want a USO even if it made them blind just because its the most expensive. I learned long ago that the most $$$$ isn't always the best. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE></p><p></p><p>I'm sure you are right. There are always those who buy based on the price tag simple to have bragging rights - none of whom are on this forum, of course. I agree that the price tag doesn't always equate with the highest quality. I think Consumer Reports pretty much demonstrates that in every issue. But, on the flip side of that coin is the idea that when something looks to good to be true, it probably is. So, I just kind of chuckle when I see a new shooter log on and ask, "What is the best scope I can get for $250." The truth is, for that money you are not going to get much. It costs the manufacturer money to get good glass, good coatings, good metal and gears. That is just the fact of it. Good stuff costs money. Once you get up into the better Leupolds, NF, S&B, you are getting the good stuff. But, like SCL says, if you want or need something out of production specs, you will probably wind up at USO to get it made.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Blaine Fields, post: 17512, member: 183"] John, <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR> I happy with nightforce, I think it is a well made scope. I'm not going to buy the argument, however, that my NF is a mass produced piece of crap and USO is the light years better. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> NF is certainly not a piece of crap, by a long shot. I think what SCL was saying was that NF (as well as Leupold, S&B, Zeiss, Swarovski, etc.) have specific models that they market. If you want something a little diffeerent, they can't accommodate you. There is no question that NF puts out a first class scope, however. When I bought my USO variable, because of its size and the size of the adjustable objective, it didn't look right to me to get the scope with a 30mm tube. Even though there was no advantage to my getting a larger tube, nevertheless, simply for the balance and asthetics of it all, I ordered it with a 35mm tube and think it was the right decision. That's what SCL was referring to - the ability to pretty much build out your scope the way you want. I think USO recognizes the problem this creates. First, some people don't know enough to spec out a scope and wind up making mistakes and being unhappy with the final result. Second, this semi-custom orientation comes with a price. So I think (from seeing what is going on at Sniper's Hide) that they are trying to standardize certain configurations in order to make production more economical and thus come into line with other good scope manufacturers who build standard products. But I don't know anyone who says or thinks that NF produces inferior quality scopes because clearly they don't. <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR> There are other people who simply want a USO even if it made them blind just because its the most expensive. I learned long ago that the most $$$$ isn't always the best. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I'm sure you are right. There are always those who buy based on the price tag simple to have bragging rights - none of whom are on this forum, of course. I agree that the price tag doesn't always equate with the highest quality. I think Consumer Reports pretty much demonstrates that in every issue. But, on the flip side of that coin is the idea that when something looks to good to be true, it probably is. So, I just kind of chuckle when I see a new shooter log on and ask, "What is the best scope I can get for $250." The truth is, for that money you are not going to get much. It costs the manufacturer money to get good glass, good coatings, good metal and gears. That is just the fact of it. Good stuff costs money. Once you get up into the better Leupolds, NF, S&B, you are getting the good stuff. But, like SCL says, if you want or need something out of production specs, you will probably wind up at USO to get it made. [/QUOTE]
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