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<blockquote data-quote="SCL" data-source="post: 17508" data-attributes="member: 1720"><p>John M.,</p><p>I can find several NF NXS scopes for sale on the various boards - sturmgewehr, sniper country, sniper's hide, etc. etc. on any given day. If you are having problems finding a used one let me know and I'll point you towards some links. There are four NF scopes advertised at snipercountry right now...and only one USO, which is the first one I have seen for sale over there in a long time. :-( Personally, I would love for more second hand USO's to come into the market, they are just scarce as hen's teeth. If anyone out there has a spare SN-9, SN-2, or SN-3 they are unhappy with please shoot me a personal e-mail at <a href="mailto:sleibfried@hotmail.com">sleibfried@hotmail.com</a> - I'll give you a fair price. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>As I said in my previous post, if mass market scopes fit your need (and I gather from your post that the 110 MOA in your NSX does) then by all means, go with that - the money you save will buy a lot of ammo.</p><p></p><p>However, once you start pushing the outer limits of true super-long range shooting (which is getting harder and harder to do due to range limitations and urban sprawl - another topic for another day <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> you will find that 110 MOA, hell, even 150 MOA out of a Loopy MK4 16X isn't enough, particularly if the glass isn't of best grade quality and resolution capability.</p><p></p><p>In the end, it all comes down to your needs -honestly, I don't think most shooters need USO scopes - they may want them for the quality, durablity, etc, and I don't fault them for that - if I could afford it, I would have USO glass on all of my guns. However, there are several cheaper mass market scopes out there that fill the bill for your .223, .220 swift, .308, etc.</p><p></p><p>If you want to be successful at ranges way out there...then USO is it. I'll go back to my custom gun metaphor from my first post - most average shooters won't tell much of a difference between a Heinie built 1911 and a full house custom from the Colt or Kimber factory custom shop - they have the same modifications, features, etc. However, the difference in quality and attention to detail in the Heinie is immediately obvious to a true afficionado or advanced pistolero. Additionally, Heinie will build you a superlative gun any way you want it - a commander size 9x23 or 10MM - no problem. Officer's frame with commander slide - no problem, etc. etc. USO is the same; 40mm tube with ultra-hi res glass - no problem. Special reticle designs - no problem, etc. No one else in the optics market will do that - period.</p><p></p><p>As a wise Chief Petty Officer once told me, "Quality is never cheap, but always affordable." If you are doing super-long range work, then nothing else in the marketplace comes close to USO, and the scopes become affordable because there is nothing else out there that will do the job as well as USO (IMHO). If you are shooting your .308 out to 600 - 1200 meters then a NXS is a great choice. Try reaching out and touching something accurately, at 2,500 meters plus and its a different environment altogether - NF NXS scopes are a great choice if your budget cannot take purchasing a USO, however once you use a USO long range scope at those ranges on a quality long range rig, you will wonder how you ever got by without it. Just my .02, YMMV.</p><p></p><p>SCL</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SCL, post: 17508, member: 1720"] John M., I can find several NF NXS scopes for sale on the various boards - sturmgewehr, sniper country, sniper's hide, etc. etc. on any given day. If you are having problems finding a used one let me know and I'll point you towards some links. There are four NF scopes advertised at snipercountry right now...and only one USO, which is the first one I have seen for sale over there in a long time. :-( Personally, I would love for more second hand USO's to come into the market, they are just scarce as hen's teeth. If anyone out there has a spare SN-9, SN-2, or SN-3 they are unhappy with please shoot me a personal e-mail at [email]sleibfried@hotmail.com[/email] - I'll give you a fair price. :-) As I said in my previous post, if mass market scopes fit your need (and I gather from your post that the 110 MOA in your NSX does) then by all means, go with that - the money you save will buy a lot of ammo. However, once you start pushing the outer limits of true super-long range shooting (which is getting harder and harder to do due to range limitations and urban sprawl - another topic for another day :-) you will find that 110 MOA, hell, even 150 MOA out of a Loopy MK4 16X isn't enough, particularly if the glass isn't of best grade quality and resolution capability. In the end, it all comes down to your needs -honestly, I don't think most shooters need USO scopes - they may want them for the quality, durablity, etc, and I don't fault them for that - if I could afford it, I would have USO glass on all of my guns. However, there are several cheaper mass market scopes out there that fill the bill for your .223, .220 swift, .308, etc. If you want to be successful at ranges way out there...then USO is it. I'll go back to my custom gun metaphor from my first post - most average shooters won't tell much of a difference between a Heinie built 1911 and a full house custom from the Colt or Kimber factory custom shop - they have the same modifications, features, etc. However, the difference in quality and attention to detail in the Heinie is immediately obvious to a true afficionado or advanced pistolero. Additionally, Heinie will build you a superlative gun any way you want it - a commander size 9x23 or 10MM - no problem. Officer's frame with commander slide - no problem, etc. etc. USO is the same; 40mm tube with ultra-hi res glass - no problem. Special reticle designs - no problem, etc. No one else in the optics market will do that - period. As a wise Chief Petty Officer once told me, "Quality is never cheap, but always affordable." If you are doing super-long range work, then nothing else in the marketplace comes close to USO, and the scopes become affordable because there is nothing else out there that will do the job as well as USO (IMHO). If you are shooting your .308 out to 600 - 1200 meters then a NXS is a great choice. Try reaching out and touching something accurately, at 2,500 meters plus and its a different environment altogether - NF NXS scopes are a great choice if your budget cannot take purchasing a USO, however once you use a USO long range scope at those ranges on a quality long range rig, you will wonder how you ever got by without it. Just my .02, YMMV. SCL [/QUOTE]
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