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<blockquote data-quote="ENCORE" data-source="post: 991976" data-attributes="member: 33046"><p>I don't know if you asked Ken or not but, replacing a breech plug in one of his rifles is a rarity. If I'm not mistaken, Randy has over 10,000 shots through the same breech plug in his rifle. There's no way even a Pro Hunter can get that many shots without the flash hole eroding. I could only get about 400 rounds through mine before the groups would open up and I'd have to replace it. As I understand it those UF plugs that needed replacement, all were shot with BH209. I've shot BH209 since it became available and HIGHLY support that propellant. However it didn't work out and hasn't for others shooting the UF rifles.</p><p> </p><p>I have very strong suspicions as to why my breech plug cut and <u>it was totally <strong>my fault</strong></u>. I'd bet a Cola on it. I shoot like a mad man and if I don't have obligations of some kind, I'm most likely shooting, either here a home or at the club. <u>What I believe I did, was to re-prime and shoot the same cases to many times</u>. Regardless of rather its the RU or the UF rifles, they both compress the case on a nipple via the bolt. That compression has to be tight, or it will allow gas to escape. This is the reason that BOTH the RU and UF manufacturers have a suggested limit with how many times you can re-prime the brass. Regardless, there is a maximum about of times that you can close that bolt on the brass and obtain the proper seal without the brass collapsing. Rather its the steel used in the UF or the RU, ask some of the top custom muzzleloader builders in America, 416 steel WILL gas cut if the gas is allowed to escape. It is critical that the case seals. It was entirely my fault IMO, as I re-primed cases when I shouldn't have and continued shooting.</p><p> </p><p>I learned a big lesson there and now have at minimum 1,000 new cases. Each case will be fired one time, de-primed and the primer pockets brushed. Then they go into a container marked as "once fired". After the second time of re-priming, they'll each be thoroughly inspected. Any of them re-primed the third time and shot will be discarded. My intent is to order another thousand.</p><p> </p><p>The brass and its seal will dictate how many times a .308 case can be re-primed in the RU. Those who do as I did, will be replacing breech plugs in the RU also.</p><p> </p><p>Good luck with your decision.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ENCORE, post: 991976, member: 33046"] I don't know if you asked Ken or not but, replacing a breech plug in one of his rifles is a rarity. If I'm not mistaken, Randy has over 10,000 shots through the same breech plug in his rifle. There's no way even a Pro Hunter can get that many shots without the flash hole eroding. I could only get about 400 rounds through mine before the groups would open up and I'd have to replace it. As I understand it those UF plugs that needed replacement, all were shot with BH209. I've shot BH209 since it became available and HIGHLY support that propellant. However it didn't work out and hasn't for others shooting the UF rifles. I have very strong suspicions as to why my breech plug cut and [U]it was totally [B]my fault[/B][/U]. I'd bet a Cola on it. I shoot like a mad man and if I don't have obligations of some kind, I'm most likely shooting, either here a home or at the club. [U]What I believe I did, was to re-prime and shoot the same cases to many times[/U]. Regardless of rather its the RU or the UF rifles, they both compress the case on a nipple via the bolt. That compression has to be tight, or it will allow gas to escape. This is the reason that BOTH the RU and UF manufacturers have a suggested limit with how many times you can re-prime the brass. Regardless, there is a maximum about of times that you can close that bolt on the brass and obtain the proper seal without the brass collapsing. Rather its the steel used in the UF or the RU, ask some of the top custom muzzleloader builders in America, 416 steel WILL gas cut if the gas is allowed to escape. It is critical that the case seals. It was entirely my fault IMO, as I re-primed cases when I shouldn't have and continued shooting. I learned a big lesson there and now have at minimum 1,000 new cases. Each case will be fired one time, de-primed and the primer pockets brushed. Then they go into a container marked as "once fired". After the second time of re-priming, they'll each be thoroughly inspected. Any of them re-primed the third time and shot will be discarded. My intent is to order another thousand. The brass and its seal will dictate how many times a .308 case can be re-primed in the RU. Those who do as I did, will be replacing breech plugs in the RU also. Good luck with your decision. [/QUOTE]
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