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two gun battery...6.5 creed more and 280AI??
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<blockquote data-quote="redneckbmxer24" data-source="post: 1246896" data-attributes="member: 11459"><p>I went back and forth with the same thought. I was actually just going to build one rifle in 6.5 creed for everything up to elk but I felt while it would take an elk no problem, I'd still like to have a little more gas, and I felt it was overmanned for coyotes and varmints.</p><p></p><p>Where I live over penetration on a small animal as well as riccocet on a miss is certainly more of a concern than the wide open west. A larger bullet is always going to go further in either circumstance, and a slower moving bullet (think 6.5 creed vs 243) is going to deform or fragment less on such impact making it more lethal in the worst case scenario. Sure you can use a frangible bullet and have several loads but that drives me nuts. I like having one load for a rifle. That way the is no wondering which load the turrets are currently zero'd out for, mixing up dope cards, or anything like that. One load that is going to hit the same POI every time.</p><p></p><p>That is why I decided I needed a regular use rifle in a 6mm. I chose 6mm over .224" for the ability to legally take deer in my state (and some others), and to increase ethical shot ability at further distance and on larger animals. 243 with the right bullet and a good shot is without a doubt adequate up to mule deer sized game to about 600 yards. Elk have been killed with them to the same distance and further but I'd personally get closer if I had to use it and couldn't use a bigger rifle.</p><p></p><p>In the same respect a 7mm mag isn't overgunned for deer size game or antelope, and its perfectly suitable for everything up to moose and even brown bear. I can also comfortably shoot it enough to practice with it in a ~10lbs rig with no brake needed.</p><p></p><p>For my uses if I were to choose 6.5 creed, I would have a 3 rifle battery. I would have the creedmoor for all things deer sized game because I feel the medium 6.5's are about the perfect choice for them. It could also double for elk in a pinch (would do so better than a 6mm). I would have a fast .224 for votes and speed goats, and a .300 of some sorts for bigger stuff and I feel 6.5mm and 7mm are just too close in performance for small rifle battery. But I can't shoot a 300wm that I would be willing to carry all day comfortably without a brake, and I don't believe in putting brakes on hunting rigs so this entire equation is out for me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="redneckbmxer24, post: 1246896, member: 11459"] I went back and forth with the same thought. I was actually just going to build one rifle in 6.5 creed for everything up to elk but I felt while it would take an elk no problem, I'd still like to have a little more gas, and I felt it was overmanned for coyotes and varmints. Where I live over penetration on a small animal as well as riccocet on a miss is certainly more of a concern than the wide open west. A larger bullet is always going to go further in either circumstance, and a slower moving bullet (think 6.5 creed vs 243) is going to deform or fragment less on such impact making it more lethal in the worst case scenario. Sure you can use a frangible bullet and have several loads but that drives me nuts. I like having one load for a rifle. That way the is no wondering which load the turrets are currently zero'd out for, mixing up dope cards, or anything like that. One load that is going to hit the same POI every time. That is why I decided I needed a regular use rifle in a 6mm. I chose 6mm over .224" for the ability to legally take deer in my state (and some others), and to increase ethical shot ability at further distance and on larger animals. 243 with the right bullet and a good shot is without a doubt adequate up to mule deer sized game to about 600 yards. Elk have been killed with them to the same distance and further but I'd personally get closer if I had to use it and couldn't use a bigger rifle. In the same respect a 7mm mag isn't overgunned for deer size game or antelope, and its perfectly suitable for everything up to moose and even brown bear. I can also comfortably shoot it enough to practice with it in a ~10lbs rig with no brake needed. For my uses if I were to choose 6.5 creed, I would have a 3 rifle battery. I would have the creedmoor for all things deer sized game because I feel the medium 6.5's are about the perfect choice for them. It could also double for elk in a pinch (would do so better than a 6mm). I would have a fast .224 for votes and speed goats, and a .300 of some sorts for bigger stuff and I feel 6.5mm and 7mm are just too close in performance for small rifle battery. But I can't shoot a 300wm that I would be willing to carry all day comfortably without a brake, and I don't believe in putting brakes on hunting rigs so this entire equation is out for me. [/QUOTE]
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