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trying to get into long range shooting with something that wont break the bank
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<blockquote data-quote="Pons" data-source="post: 551688" data-attributes="member: 32348"><p>For me, if I wanted an inexpensive tack driver that I did not have to modify, I would go with a Savage target rifle. If I wanted to go inexpensive for accuracy potential after upgrades, I would start with an inexpensive Savage Action. If I wanted everything smithed for me (vs. me putting it together) to get a rifle just how I wanted it first time around, or if I wanted a really big boomer I would start with a custom action and have a custom built rifle. If I already had a non Savage, non custom action sitting around that I wanted to upgrade, I might look into getting it trued... but I really would rather go another route.</p><p></p><p>Kirby Allen's web site shows a nice comparison of a factory action vs. a custom action and he shows what is done to "true" a factory action. <a href="http://apsrifles.com/Custom_Built_Firearms.html" target="_blank">http://apsrifles.com/Custom_Built_Firearms.html</a></p><p></p><p>I can see any one of those ways (target, factory with upgrades, full custom) of getting to your goal being a lot of fun.</p><p></p><p>You mentioned starting with a Rem Varmint style. I've shot some Rem LE style rifles and stock Savage entry level LE line .308's that were both sub .75 moa guns stock with factory ammo. IMO, that is decent shooting. Is that the kind of performance you are looking for? Are you looking for better? ( I am guessing you are)</p><p></p><p>How accurate/precise are you hoping for? Some benchrest rigs get down into the zeros and .1's (inches at 100yds). <a href="http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2008/05/beggs-develops-radical-rig-in-west-texas-tunnel/" target="_blank">http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2008/05/beggs-develops-radical-rig-in-west-texas-tunnel/</a> (Gene let me shoot this tack driver for a day a few years back, great rifle and would be a blast if I was into bench rest. ) Getting down real low can start to make things like temp and density altitude and the effect on internal and external ballistics start playing a larger role in what kind of groups you get with ammo that maybe shot great one day and is just a little off another.</p><p></p><p>If you want an a factory gun that is an absolute hammer, would you like a single shot Savage target rifle in .308? I don't know what you have pictured as your ultimate rifle.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't know if you read these articles on upgrading Savages or not:</p><p><a href="http://www.longrangehunting.com/articles/long-range-rig.php" target="_blank">http://www.longrangehunting.com/articles/long-range-rig.php</a></p><p><a href="http://www.longrangehunting.com/articles/savage-tactical-rifle-project-1.php" target="_blank">http://www.longrangehunting.com/articles/savage-tactical-rifle-project-1.php</a></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>By the way, I have really enjoyed this thread. It has made me think over some of the guns and projects I have had in the past and am planning for the future. Thank you for starting it! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>And again, best of luck with your build, I hope you get what you wanted!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pons, post: 551688, member: 32348"] For me, if I wanted an inexpensive tack driver that I did not have to modify, I would go with a Savage target rifle. If I wanted to go inexpensive for accuracy potential after upgrades, I would start with an inexpensive Savage Action. If I wanted everything smithed for me (vs. me putting it together) to get a rifle just how I wanted it first time around, or if I wanted a really big boomer I would start with a custom action and have a custom built rifle. If I already had a non Savage, non custom action sitting around that I wanted to upgrade, I might look into getting it trued... but I really would rather go another route. Kirby Allen's web site shows a nice comparison of a factory action vs. a custom action and he shows what is done to "true" a factory action. [url]http://apsrifles.com/Custom_Built_Firearms.html[/url] I can see any one of those ways (target, factory with upgrades, full custom) of getting to your goal being a lot of fun. You mentioned starting with a Rem Varmint style. I've shot some Rem LE style rifles and stock Savage entry level LE line .308's that were both sub .75 moa guns stock with factory ammo. IMO, that is decent shooting. Is that the kind of performance you are looking for? Are you looking for better? ( I am guessing you are) How accurate/precise are you hoping for? Some benchrest rigs get down into the zeros and .1's (inches at 100yds). [url]http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2008/05/beggs-develops-radical-rig-in-west-texas-tunnel/[/url] (Gene let me shoot this tack driver for a day a few years back, great rifle and would be a blast if I was into bench rest. ) Getting down real low can start to make things like temp and density altitude and the effect on internal and external ballistics start playing a larger role in what kind of groups you get with ammo that maybe shot great one day and is just a little off another. If you want an a factory gun that is an absolute hammer, would you like a single shot Savage target rifle in .308? I don't know what you have pictured as your ultimate rifle. I don't know if you read these articles on upgrading Savages or not: [url]http://www.longrangehunting.com/articles/long-range-rig.php[/url] [url]http://www.longrangehunting.com/articles/savage-tactical-rifle-project-1.php[/url] By the way, I have really enjoyed this thread. It has made me think over some of the guns and projects I have had in the past and am planning for the future. Thank you for starting it! :) And again, best of luck with your build, I hope you get what you wanted! [/QUOTE]
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