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Trigger magazine: 25 creedmoor - ultimate hybrid or ballistic bastard?
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<blockquote data-quote="257 Blackjack" data-source="post: 1600298" data-attributes="member: 106220"><p>I am not sure if you are kidding or not so I'll just address the statements as they came.</p><p></p><p>"There are no 25 cal bullets anywhere close to .330 G7 BC" - Our prototype run averaged 0.330 G7 at 1000 yds over various 10 round strings of fire. Our production run has not been tested over an Oehler 88 or Oehler89 system but the shooting community has reported 0.345-0.350 G7 on the production run 131 gr ACEs loud and clear. We put focus on making the meplats more consistent and more pointy for the production run resulting in a 0.23" longer bullet and about 0.015 G7 points to boot.</p><p></p><p>Yes, a lot of companies have abused their marketing powers and brand loyalty to over represent their bullets historically and even currently. Our whole company philosophy is to provide actual #'s, and as the magazine article indicates and the competition shooting community knows, our published BC of 0.330 G7 at 2940 fps is "Conservative".</p><p></p><p>The shooters running 0.330 G7 are shooting over their small and medium sized targets at 800 - 1000 yds. The messages I get from people about this are some of the best texts and PM's I get on my phone.</p><p></p><p>A comment from the shooting community easily found with Google.</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]127316[/ATTACH]</p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>A statement by one of the best marksmen in the USA.</strong></p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]127317[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>Follow up by this top shooter after more testing and laying down 3-4" groups at 900 yds</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]127318[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>Another shooter easily found by search engine on forums</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]127319[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>Anyhow, the information and reception of Conservative BC #'s is there when you want to research it. It's here on this forum as well.</p><p></p><p>Regarding the last sentence of your post: "until the bullet makers star doing some R&D and produce some long, sleek, heavy for cal bullets in .257"</p><p></p><p>That R&D was done years ago and the prototypes were made last spring and one of the most efficient for weight bullets to hit the market was released in September 2018.</p><p></p><p>It happened to be a 25 Caliber that weighs 131 grains.</p><p></p><p>After we produce 3 high performance 25 Cal bullets, our cartridge with brass and dies and reamers, we will release other bullets too.</p><p></p><p>Lots of good things to come.</p><p></p><p>MJ</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="257 Blackjack, post: 1600298, member: 106220"] I am not sure if you are kidding or not so I'll just address the statements as they came. "There are no 25 cal bullets anywhere close to .330 G7 BC" - Our prototype run averaged 0.330 G7 at 1000 yds over various 10 round strings of fire. Our production run has not been tested over an Oehler 88 or Oehler89 system but the shooting community has reported 0.345-0.350 G7 on the production run 131 gr ACEs loud and clear. We put focus on making the meplats more consistent and more pointy for the production run resulting in a 0.23" longer bullet and about 0.015 G7 points to boot. Yes, a lot of companies have abused their marketing powers and brand loyalty to over represent their bullets historically and even currently. Our whole company philosophy is to provide actual #'s, and as the magazine article indicates and the competition shooting community knows, our published BC of 0.330 G7 at 2940 fps is "Conservative". The shooters running 0.330 G7 are shooting over their small and medium sized targets at 800 - 1000 yds. The messages I get from people about this are some of the best texts and PM's I get on my phone. A comment from the shooting community easily found with Google. [ATTACH=full]127316[/ATTACH] [B] A statement by one of the best marksmen in the USA.[/B] [ATTACH=full]127317[/ATTACH] Follow up by this top shooter after more testing and laying down 3-4" groups at 900 yds [ATTACH=full]127318[/ATTACH] Another shooter easily found by search engine on forums [ATTACH=full]127319[/ATTACH] Anyhow, the information and reception of Conservative BC #'s is there when you want to research it. It's here on this forum as well. Regarding the last sentence of your post: "until the bullet makers star doing some R&D and produce some long, sleek, heavy for cal bullets in .257" That R&D was done years ago and the prototypes were made last spring and one of the most efficient for weight bullets to hit the market was released in September 2018. It happened to be a 25 Caliber that weighs 131 grains. After we produce 3 high performance 25 Cal bullets, our cartridge with brass and dies and reamers, we will release other bullets too. Lots of good things to come. MJ [/QUOTE]
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