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Tract Optics Toric UHD 30mm 4-20x50
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<blockquote data-quote="JungleShooter" data-source="post: 2312327" data-attributes="member: 110729"><p><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="👍🏼" title="Thumbs up: medium-light skin tone :thumbsup_tone2:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f44d-1f3fc.png" data-shortname=":thumbsup_tone2:" /> Your comment shines a helpful light on one of the challenges with FFP scopes (and yes, before you ask, I am one enthusiastic FFP user). </p><p></p><p>It's <strong>not</strong> that you can/should use "FFP for high magnifications" (LRH and LRT), and "SFP for low magnification scopes" (close range stalk and thicket).</p><p></p><p><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="🔸" title="Small orange diamond :small_orange_diamond:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f538.png" data-shortname=":small_orange_diamond:" />The issue is <strong>not</strong> what the top magnification is — <strong>but</strong> what the <span style="color: rgb(65, 168, 95)"><strong>magnification range</strong></span> is. </p><p></p><p>Because the scope manufacturers have to make reticles that are<strong> somewhat still visible </strong>at the <em>bottom</em> magnification — AND that are also <strong>not too large to cover up the target</strong> at the <em>top</em> magnification. <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="😊" title="Smiling face with smiling eyes :blush:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60a.png" data-shortname=":blush:" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="🔸" title="Small orange diamond :small_orange_diamond:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f538.png" data-shortname=":small_orange_diamond:" />For example:</p><p>Say the <span style="color: rgb(65, 168, 95)"><strong>magnification range</strong></span> is <strong>small</strong>, e.g., <strong>3-fold</strong> on a 3-9x, or a 4-12x, or a 5-15x. </p><p>Now that won't be much of a problem. You'll still have pretty thick reticle lines at the bottom magnification, and nothing too thick at the top either. </p><p></p><p>BUT:</p><p>If the magnification range is <strong>large</strong>, this gets progessively more difficult to do, e.g. </p><p><strong>5-fold:</strong> 3-15x, or 4-20x, or 5-25x</p><p><strong>6-fold:</strong> 3-18x, or 4-24x, or 5-30x</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="❓" title="Question mark :question:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/2753.png" data-shortname=":question:" />Now, why would anybody in their right mind want such a large magnification range...? <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="🤦🏻♂️" title="Man facepalming: light skin tone :man_facepalming_tone1:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f926-1f3fb-2642.png" data-shortname=":man_facepalming_tone1:" /> </p><p></p><p>➔ The answer lies in the <strong>type of shooting</strong> they do, and the <strong>type of budget</strong> they decide to have for their shooting hobby.... <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="😄" title="Grinning face with smiling eyes :smile:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f604.png" data-shortname=":smile:" /> </p><p>Because:</p><p>Specialist scopes on specialist guns for specialist shooting scenarios are great (and the amount of gun closets some of us need to justify to their significant others illustrates this).</p><p>But sometimes I might need a do-it-all scope on a do-it-all gun for a wide variety of shooting scenarios.... </p><p></p><p></p><p>Just sayin'. And yes, last week I was looking at an SFP — so, I'm open to both options. <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="😊" title="Smiling face with smiling eyes :blush:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60a.png" data-shortname=":blush:" /></p><p></p><p>Matthias</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JungleShooter, post: 2312327, member: 110729"] 👍🏼 Your comment shines a helpful light on one of the challenges with FFP scopes (and yes, before you ask, I am one enthusiastic FFP user). It's [B]not[/B] that you can/should use "FFP for high magnifications" (LRH and LRT), and "SFP for low magnification scopes" (close range stalk and thicket). 🔸The issue is [B]not[/B] what the top magnification is — [B]but[/B] what the [COLOR=rgb(65, 168, 95)][B]magnification range[/B][/COLOR] is. Because the scope manufacturers have to make reticles that are[B] somewhat still visible [/B]at the [I]bottom[/I] magnification — AND that are also [B]not too large to cover up the target[/B] at the [I]top[/I] magnification. 😊 🔸For example: Say the [COLOR=rgb(65, 168, 95)][B]magnification range[/B][/COLOR] is [B]small[/B], e.g., [B]3-fold[/B] on a 3-9x, or a 4-12x, or a 5-15x. Now that won't be much of a problem. You'll still have pretty thick reticle lines at the bottom magnification, and nothing too thick at the top either. BUT: If the magnification range is [B]large[/B], this gets progessively more difficult to do, e.g. [B]5-fold:[/B] 3-15x, or 4-20x, or 5-25x [B]6-fold:[/B] 3-18x, or 4-24x, or 5-30x ❓Now, why would anybody in their right mind want such a large magnification range...? 🤦🏻♂️ ➔ The answer lies in the [B]type of shooting[/B] they do, and the [B]type of budget[/B] they decide to have for their shooting hobby.... 😄 Because: Specialist scopes on specialist guns for specialist shooting scenarios are great (and the amount of gun closets some of us need to justify to their significant others illustrates this). But sometimes I might need a do-it-all scope on a do-it-all gun for a wide variety of shooting scenarios.... Just sayin'. And yes, last week I was looking at an SFP — so, I'm open to both options. 😊 Matthias [/QUOTE]
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