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<blockquote data-quote="Deleted member 102985" data-source="post: 1596371"><p>I have guided many hunters for Western big game for 30+ years. I see more and more hunters showing up with what I say is not enough gun. I always try to get my customers as close as possible to make a clean kill. Some factors I see often are out of shape hunters who cannot get over the next Hill to close the distance. I agree fully that proper placement,bullet type and range are key but last season I had a customer with a 6.5 who was out of breath, excited and made a shot on a big bull at 212 yards. Due to most of these factors he hit it a few inches too far back. After 7 hours of tracking we finally recovered the bull. The next day my son shot one with a Shiloh sharps 45-70 at 663 yards 1 shot DRT. But even his shot was a bit too far back but still dropped it. I still say why not bring a bit more gun than you think you need but make sure the shooter is capable of what they are attempting to pull off. When you add in adrenaline, fatigue, excitement, and a rapidly changing situation why not have a bit more to help compensate for these factors and others like mild crosswinds as well.in a perfect senario you can kill elk and deer with a 223 but are you willing to put your success all on that one perfect situation and risk going home with tag soup? I have seen many animals taken with the old reliables that we're not so perfect of a shot a 30-06,270,308 and many others will still in my opinion, help to correct slight imperfections no matter what they are. That being said I love to hunt with many calibers in the 6mm,6.5 7mm. But for long range shots I still go with my 300 Lapua or 338 edge. This year I took my biggest bull to date at 1263 yards. If I had my 6.5x47 Lapua I would have watched that bull walk away. When I got up to him I had no meat loss except for a busted rib a hole through the lungs, and a pass thru hole in the hide. I say hunt with what you are comfortable with but when my customers draw blood that's their animal recovered or not.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Deleted member 102985, post: 1596371"] I have guided many hunters for Western big game for 30+ years. I see more and more hunters showing up with what I say is not enough gun. I always try to get my customers as close as possible to make a clean kill. Some factors I see often are out of shape hunters who cannot get over the next Hill to close the distance. I agree fully that proper placement,bullet type and range are key but last season I had a customer with a 6.5 who was out of breath, excited and made a shot on a big bull at 212 yards. Due to most of these factors he hit it a few inches too far back. After 7 hours of tracking we finally recovered the bull. The next day my son shot one with a Shiloh sharps 45-70 at 663 yards 1 shot DRT. But even his shot was a bit too far back but still dropped it. I still say why not bring a bit more gun than you think you need but make sure the shooter is capable of what they are attempting to pull off. When you add in adrenaline, fatigue, excitement, and a rapidly changing situation why not have a bit more to help compensate for these factors and others like mild crosswinds as well.in a perfect senario you can kill elk and deer with a 223 but are you willing to put your success all on that one perfect situation and risk going home with tag soup? I have seen many animals taken with the old reliables that we're not so perfect of a shot a 30-06,270,308 and many others will still in my opinion, help to correct slight imperfections no matter what they are. That being said I love to hunt with many calibers in the 6mm,6.5 7mm. But for long range shots I still go with my 300 Lapua or 338 edge. This year I took my biggest bull to date at 1263 yards. If I had my 6.5x47 Lapua I would have watched that bull walk away. When I got up to him I had no meat loss except for a busted rib a hole through the lungs, and a pass thru hole in the hide. I say hunt with what you are comfortable with but when my customers draw blood that's their animal recovered or not. [/QUOTE]
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