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Tomahawk (300 RUM imp.) vs WarBird???
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<blockquote data-quote="orwapitihunter" data-source="post: 31456" data-attributes="member: 1939"><p>NorthernSniper</p><p>I can't speak about the Tomahawk but I do have some experience with the Warbird. As far as velocitites go I shoot a 180gr Accubond at 3555fps with the Lazzeroni listed max load of RL25. This is with a 27" Lilja barrel on a 700 action. I have tested a few other loads with IMR7828. 180 Nosler Partition at 3447fps at 3.5grs below max(this was my old hunting load). 150 Nosler Ballistic Tip at 3670fps at 2grs below max. As far as advertised velocities, I don't have any problem duplicating them with listed data.</p><p></p><p>With that out of the way I have to agree with everyone else that the brass is the fly in the ointment. I haven't seperated any cases in the 6 or 7 years I and a friend have been shooting Warbirds. But weight and neck thickness show too much variation. I have minimized this to some degree by sorting. I am happy with the accuracy I am getting. </p><p></p><p>If I were building a replacement rifle I would go straight to the unaltered 300RUM. Better brass is being made, and will be cheaper and easier to come by. Easy to find a factory rifle or an easier less $ custom build. No fire forming(not that it is difficult but its more components and wear on your barrel). From a hunting stand point I don't see enough advantage to deal with the downside of the other chamberings. </p><p></p><p>Hope some part of this rambling helps. <img src="http://images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="orwapitihunter, post: 31456, member: 1939"] NorthernSniper I can't speak about the Tomahawk but I do have some experience with the Warbird. As far as velocitites go I shoot a 180gr Accubond at 3555fps with the Lazzeroni listed max load of RL25. This is with a 27" Lilja barrel on a 700 action. I have tested a few other loads with IMR7828. 180 Nosler Partition at 3447fps at 3.5grs below max(this was my old hunting load). 150 Nosler Ballistic Tip at 3670fps at 2grs below max. As far as advertised velocities, I don't have any problem duplicating them with listed data. With that out of the way I have to agree with everyone else that the brass is the fly in the ointment. I haven't seperated any cases in the 6 or 7 years I and a friend have been shooting Warbirds. But weight and neck thickness show too much variation. I have minimized this to some degree by sorting. I am happy with the accuracy I am getting. If I were building a replacement rifle I would go straight to the unaltered 300RUM. Better brass is being made, and will be cheaper and easier to come by. Easy to find a factory rifle or an easier less $ custom build. No fire forming(not that it is difficult but its more components and wear on your barrel). From a hunting stand point I don't see enough advantage to deal with the downside of the other chamberings. Hope some part of this rambling helps. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] [/QUOTE]
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