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Long Range Scopes and Other Optics
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<blockquote data-quote="westcliffe01" data-source="post: 817430" data-attributes="member: 35183"><p>In the last week, I have worked with 3 new shooters, none of which have any precision shooting experience and every one has hit steel (and grouped respectably) on steel plates at 160 and 300 yards. The rifle is a Savage 10PC in 223 and topped with a Nikon Monarch 3-12x42. I had a custom turret made for the specific load (75gr HPBT) and within the range discussed it works perfectly.</p><p></p><p>I will say that the Monarch 3 scopes now have the same turret system as the M223 line of scopes and it has a fundamental problem that you can't lock the turret to prevent zero shift. Anything that lifts up on the turret cap can disengage the cap from the mechanism and there goes your zero...</p><p></p><p>So sadly, buying a newer Monarch is now out the question in my opinion. There used to be less expensive Vipers, but that seems to have been dropped for the line that is made in china. I doubt you would regret either of your choices, but both may be slightly over the top for a max of 300 yards. I bought my FFP Viper scopes because I anticipate stretching out the range in a few years when I move to CO.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="westcliffe01, post: 817430, member: 35183"] In the last week, I have worked with 3 new shooters, none of which have any precision shooting experience and every one has hit steel (and grouped respectably) on steel plates at 160 and 300 yards. The rifle is a Savage 10PC in 223 and topped with a Nikon Monarch 3-12x42. I had a custom turret made for the specific load (75gr HPBT) and within the range discussed it works perfectly. I will say that the Monarch 3 scopes now have the same turret system as the M223 line of scopes and it has a fundamental problem that you can't lock the turret to prevent zero shift. Anything that lifts up on the turret cap can disengage the cap from the mechanism and there goes your zero... So sadly, buying a newer Monarch is now out the question in my opinion. There used to be less expensive Vipers, but that seems to have been dropped for the line that is made in china. I doubt you would regret either of your choices, but both may be slightly over the top for a max of 300 yards. I bought my FFP Viper scopes because I anticipate stretching out the range in a few years when I move to CO. [/QUOTE]
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