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<blockquote data-quote="cfvickers" data-source="post: 459920" data-attributes="member: 25488"><p>I completely understand about the .338 RUM I didn't consider it when I posted that. I was thinking more of the Lapua and 338/378. I know about the difference in weight from more metal removed too. I have an encore 45/70 and 22/250 that have the same length and outside diameter of barrel. the 45/70 weighs a little over a pound less! And hurts! I took the question to mean long range rifle or I would have said the .308, and I almost said 30/06 on the same grounds you gave for the .308 but given the greater capability with heavier projectiles. My father is in ammo sales and I do know though that a box of .300 win mag factory ammo is just barely over half the cost of a box of .338 RUM, and that is much of the reason I say the .300. Is it great for long range elk and the likes? No certainly not, and I would not even attempt to hunt dangerous game with it, but it is adequate for most of the game that the average hunter will pursue. Not overkill for any of it but suitable for anything that doesn't bite back. By the way, I am not trying to convince anyone, just for the sake of discussion, stating my opinion. I like having a lot of guns and I usually am carrying something purpose built for my mission, short of target rifles. All I have are hunting weight rifles. Also I do not own a .338 but again, really would like to have one just to have it. Bottom line is, to me, perfect is a very strong word and nothing will be perfect for every task but a few of them are suitable for all tasks. I think both the 300 WM and the 338 RUM are probably both up to any task, but in my opinion the .300 still has as many positives (although not all the same) and less negatives than any of the .338s. And as much as I shoot, I cringe at the thought of only 50-60 rounds out of a pound of powder. Also had the .264 WM been listed, even though I refuse to own one, because it is a 6.5 I would have picked it. I feel about 6.5mm projectiles as you apparently do about the .338s. I put my first DRT shot on a deer with a 6.5x55 with a poor shot placement in 1989 when I was 12 years old. It put an impression on me that I just can't shake.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="cfvickers, post: 459920, member: 25488"] I completely understand about the .338 RUM I didn't consider it when I posted that. I was thinking more of the Lapua and 338/378. I know about the difference in weight from more metal removed too. I have an encore 45/70 and 22/250 that have the same length and outside diameter of barrel. the 45/70 weighs a little over a pound less! And hurts! I took the question to mean long range rifle or I would have said the .308, and I almost said 30/06 on the same grounds you gave for the .308 but given the greater capability with heavier projectiles. My father is in ammo sales and I do know though that a box of .300 win mag factory ammo is just barely over half the cost of a box of .338 RUM, and that is much of the reason I say the .300. Is it great for long range elk and the likes? No certainly not, and I would not even attempt to hunt dangerous game with it, but it is adequate for most of the game that the average hunter will pursue. Not overkill for any of it but suitable for anything that doesn't bite back. By the way, I am not trying to convince anyone, just for the sake of discussion, stating my opinion. I like having a lot of guns and I usually am carrying something purpose built for my mission, short of target rifles. All I have are hunting weight rifles. Also I do not own a .338 but again, really would like to have one just to have it. Bottom line is, to me, perfect is a very strong word and nothing will be perfect for every task but a few of them are suitable for all tasks. I think both the 300 WM and the 338 RUM are probably both up to any task, but in my opinion the .300 still has as many positives (although not all the same) and less negatives than any of the .338s. And as much as I shoot, I cringe at the thought of only 50-60 rounds out of a pound of powder. Also had the .264 WM been listed, even though I refuse to own one, because it is a 6.5 I would have picked it. I feel about 6.5mm projectiles as you apparently do about the .338s. I put my first DRT shot on a deer with a 6.5x55 with a poor shot placement in 1989 when I was 12 years old. It put an impression on me that I just can't shake. [/QUOTE]
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