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<blockquote data-quote="Shooter J" data-source="post: 2408838" data-attributes="member: 121766"><p>I tried to read as many comments as I could here. Didn't understand why there was that many comments with a new post. As always they get hijacked with comments outside the of original post and the intent.</p><p>I understand that a ton of people do not see the value in the price point for an optic. I can tell you if any top tier scope company could make a scope for half the price they would. The top brands make a lot less than the cheaper brands per scope. This is not even up for debate. I have dealer pricing from the top tier, middle tier, and bottom tier. If middle tier offers pricing, based upon volume of sales, that is 60% below MSRP, there are margins there. If top tiers really wants to break into the market and their pricing is only 15% off of retail, I know why. </p><p>Every single brand out there can spec their glass, to any good glass makers around, to whatever the Abbe number they desire. But if I placed the best glass in front of every manufacturer it does not mean they will make the best scope.</p><p>Try and think of it this way. If you place quarter sawn clear walnut planks in front of craftsman cabinet maker vs a handyman the result will be completely different. No offense to handyman, just stating a fact here. The lens quality is important, but the engineering and design is where things shine.</p><p>Every aspect of every lens has a benefit and a downside. Stating I looked through my buddies scope at low light and we saw a deer is not saying that scope is the best.</p><p>I want to end with saying that I have used some of the best. I've asked friends to compare their scope to my ZCO. They all said intially that they felt their scope was just as clear. Until they bought a ZCO and used it. They sold all of there other scopes. Than they now have TT.</p><p>Long ago in a gun shop someone came in and looked at my rilfe on the shelf, he asked to take a look at it. When he asked what it cost, I told him all said and done around 7K. He said I can never conceive paying that much. I looked outside and saw his truck. I asked what did the lift kit, rims, and tires cost. He said about 15K. I asked if he uses for offroad, he said no, I said I use my rifle all of the time. He said well I guess I am the one who wasted money. </p><p>Honestly I am not concerned if you listen or not. If you are happy with your scope, that is great. If you want to experience seeing what you could not see before TT is quite amazing. Getting behind a friends TT means nothing Its only realized after time, you realize where you have wasted money.</p><p>Anyone out there commenting have a boat or Harley???</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shooter J, post: 2408838, member: 121766"] I tried to read as many comments as I could here. Didn't understand why there was that many comments with a new post. As always they get hijacked with comments outside the of original post and the intent. I understand that a ton of people do not see the value in the price point for an optic. I can tell you if any top tier scope company could make a scope for half the price they would. The top brands make a lot less than the cheaper brands per scope. This is not even up for debate. I have dealer pricing from the top tier, middle tier, and bottom tier. If middle tier offers pricing, based upon volume of sales, that is 60% below MSRP, there are margins there. If top tiers really wants to break into the market and their pricing is only 15% off of retail, I know why. Every single brand out there can spec their glass, to any good glass makers around, to whatever the Abbe number they desire. But if I placed the best glass in front of every manufacturer it does not mean they will make the best scope. Try and think of it this way. If you place quarter sawn clear walnut planks in front of craftsman cabinet maker vs a handyman the result will be completely different. No offense to handyman, just stating a fact here. The lens quality is important, but the engineering and design is where things shine. Every aspect of every lens has a benefit and a downside. Stating I looked through my buddies scope at low light and we saw a deer is not saying that scope is the best. I want to end with saying that I have used some of the best. I've asked friends to compare their scope to my ZCO. They all said intially that they felt their scope was just as clear. Until they bought a ZCO and used it. They sold all of there other scopes. Than they now have TT. Long ago in a gun shop someone came in and looked at my rilfe on the shelf, he asked to take a look at it. When he asked what it cost, I told him all said and done around 7K. He said I can never conceive paying that much. I looked outside and saw his truck. I asked what did the lift kit, rims, and tires cost. He said about 15K. I asked if he uses for offroad, he said no, I said I use my rifle all of the time. He said well I guess I am the one who wasted money. Honestly I am not concerned if you listen or not. If you are happy with your scope, that is great. If you want to experience seeing what you could not see before TT is quite amazing. Getting behind a friends TT means nothing Its only realized after time, you realize where you have wasted money. Anyone out there commenting have a boat or Harley??? [/QUOTE]
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