This is what I started my kids out on. TC contender gen1 frame (cougar) MGM 300 blackout SS threaded 5/8 24 16.5 inches Chote M4 adjustable stock Thumbhole stock (don't know the manufacture) Foreend painted with rubberized paint She is not much to look at, but a great way to start your kids...my kids called it the big pellet gun as it was quiet and easy to shoot suppressed. The M4 stock is easy to adjust and the little contender easy to operate. We have graduated up and the little contender has been sitting stagnant...it needs to be in the next generation hands to hunt. $550 to lower 48.