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TARGET BULLETS ARE NOT HUNTING BULLETS!
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<blockquote data-quote="WYO300RUM" data-source="post: 3055388" data-attributes="member: 32631"><p>First off my thinking only, certain bullets have certain applications/results on game but only depends on what bullet hits what at what range/velocity/angle/etc..</p><p>I've never had the need or want to shoot a target bullet at game because in 45 years of shooting elk, deer, lope, bighorn, etc. I've never had to or really want to take a shot over 600 yds. ( Oh ! Maybe im on the wrong forum) Whatever. Get over it. I don't know and really don't give a rat's *** what's considered long range or to qualify to be on this site. Been here I think 13 years. Enjoyed it. Surprised haven't been banned a few times . What gets me is when somebody tries to say one component is the end all to everything. Example, target bullets are the best killers. I think. Yes, they could be. Especially long range. But I don't hunt and expect to shoot 700 to 1500 yds. My loads are for 100 to 600 yds. and if conditions are perfect maybe I'll try my longest shot. I'm not into testing my longest shot with a chance of a bad shot on game. I don't really care where others like to aim on an animal but I like shoulder shots. Break a shoulder and take out lungs. Drop right there. Works for me 95% if the time. If not they drop within yards. I've shot "The crease", heart etc. and watch them run until die. Could be down in a canyon that I'll have to pack up and out. Done that. Don't like it at my age anymore. I won't say how many elk, deer and lope I've shot but it's enough for me to know where to hold, how far I can shoot and with what bullet. I'm not so closed minded I only use one bullet type or Brand. Every rifle I have is set up for certain bullet and load. Example, the most accurate in these rifles without giving powder, etc.. 300 RUM 215 Berger hybrid. Was Barnes 180 TSX and TTSX for many years with factory barrel. 300 WM 180 Hammer Hunter. 7mm Rem Mag. 168 Berger VLD. 6.5 PRC 156 Berger Hybrid and Hammer Hunter 123/124. 6.5 Creed 143 ELDX. 257 Weatherby 100 TTSX. 243 Win. 100 Nosler Bal Tip. I won't get into 22-250, 223, 308 win., etc. I use different bullets for whatever it is I'm going to hunt and what range I expect. Not a Berger or Hammer fan boy one bullet end all. I'm sure one type is a kill all like what I've seen on here. Most are young and haven't lived long enough to try all that's come done the road. Hopefully they will and not preach that one particular bullet is the best for everything aka ELDM. Most bullets will work best at what they are intended for. Yes any bullet will work if you put it in the right place. Yes target bullets may have a better BC. That's great if you intend to go hunting and try to take the longest shot you can. Most ethical hunters try to get as close as then can. Not shoot until they can hit or hope to. At long range animals don't react the sound of the shot the same as closer. They may react to a bullet strike close to them but they normally don't run off. I know my limits. To each their own. Bang away.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WYO300RUM, post: 3055388, member: 32631"] First off my thinking only, certain bullets have certain applications/results on game but only depends on what bullet hits what at what range/velocity/angle/etc.. I've never had the need or want to shoot a target bullet at game because in 45 years of shooting elk, deer, lope, bighorn, etc. I've never had to or really want to take a shot over 600 yds. ( Oh ! Maybe im on the wrong forum) Whatever. Get over it. I don't know and really don't give a rat's *** what's considered long range or to qualify to be on this site. Been here I think 13 years. Enjoyed it. Surprised haven't been banned a few times . What gets me is when somebody tries to say one component is the end all to everything. Example, target bullets are the best killers. I think. Yes, they could be. Especially long range. But I don't hunt and expect to shoot 700 to 1500 yds. My loads are for 100 to 600 yds. and if conditions are perfect maybe I'll try my longest shot. I'm not into testing my longest shot with a chance of a bad shot on game. I don't really care where others like to aim on an animal but I like shoulder shots. Break a shoulder and take out lungs. Drop right there. Works for me 95% if the time. If not they drop within yards. I've shot "The crease", heart etc. and watch them run until die. Could be down in a canyon that I'll have to pack up and out. Done that. Don't like it at my age anymore. I won't say how many elk, deer and lope I've shot but it's enough for me to know where to hold, how far I can shoot and with what bullet. I'm not so closed minded I only use one bullet type or Brand. Every rifle I have is set up for certain bullet and load. Example, the most accurate in these rifles without giving powder, etc.. 300 RUM 215 Berger hybrid. Was Barnes 180 TSX and TTSX for many years with factory barrel. 300 WM 180 Hammer Hunter. 7mm Rem Mag. 168 Berger VLD. 6.5 PRC 156 Berger Hybrid and Hammer Hunter 123/124. 6.5 Creed 143 ELDX. 257 Weatherby 100 TTSX. 243 Win. 100 Nosler Bal Tip. I won't get into 22-250, 223, 308 win., etc. I use different bullets for whatever it is I'm going to hunt and what range I expect. Not a Berger or Hammer fan boy one bullet end all. I'm sure one type is a kill all like what I've seen on here. Most are young and haven't lived long enough to try all that's come done the road. Hopefully they will and not preach that one particular bullet is the best for everything aka ELDM. Most bullets will work best at what they are intended for. Yes any bullet will work if you put it in the right place. Yes target bullets may have a better BC. That's great if you intend to go hunting and try to take the longest shot you can. Most ethical hunters try to get as close as then can. Not shoot until they can hit or hope to. At long range animals don't react the sound of the shot the same as closer. They may react to a bullet strike close to them but they normally don't run off. I know my limits. To each their own. Bang away. [/QUOTE]
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