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<blockquote data-quote="rcoody" data-source="post: 1168689" data-attributes="member: 91090"><p>ghost</p><p> </p><p>Sounds like you are really serious about this stuff. For me reloading that perfect ammo is just as much fun as shooting it. I spend a lot more time at the reloading bench then I do shooting. Sounds like your rifle can do the job. </p><p> </p><p>Now I am going to tell you what works for me. There is a huge difference in opinions on all this stuff. You will just have to wade through it all and pick what works for you.</p><p> </p><p>In my 6mm long range load my ES runs around 10 and my SD's are less than 4.</p><p> </p><p>I use a co-ax press, forster match dies, lapua brass, CCI benchrest primers and usually berger VLD bullets although recently I have found the Lapua scenar L to be a very good bullet. Using the co-ax improves runout and using lapua brass eliminates much of your brass prep.</p><p> </p><p>This is a typical 5 shot group in that gun at 100 yrds. </p><p> </p><p>Two things I have found to be key in reducing your SD's. Neck tension consistency and accurate powder charges.</p><p> </p><p>consistency is the real key to everything. A good set of dies will help. There is no limit to the different methods of neck sizing. </p><p> </p><p>Do you want to full length resize? Ask the guys a the range that are shooting those super small groups what dies they use. Could be they are using custom dies made to fit their chamber.</p><p> </p><p>Have you tried just neck sizing? Bushing die? Collet die? with or without the expander ball. Wilson neck sizing die and an arbor press. the methods are endless.</p><p> </p><p>another thing that is very important in consistent neck tension is annealing. As that brass is fired and reloaded that brass gets work hardened. I anneal every three firings. For me it really helps</p><p> </p><p>In conclusion its what works for you. Consistency is what you are looking for.</p><p> </p><p>Now powder charges. I will get lots of flack for this one but you just read about the long range competition shooter and see how many use a electronic powder dispenser or throw charges with a powder measure and how many weigh every charge. I found that using a digital scale like the gempro 250 and holding my charge variation to less than 0.05 grains improved my SD's quite a bit. On my long range loads I weigh and trickle every charge.</p><p> </p><p>Now for seating depth on my long range target loads. I use either 105 berger VLD's or Lapua scenar L 105's. I jam them 0.01 into the lands. I wouldn't do that with a hunting load because most likely if you try to remove the cartridge without firing you will leave the bullet in the barrel and fill your action with powder.</p><p> </p><p>again I say this works for my. You have to find what works for you.</p><p> </p><p>Now as for holding your gun. If at all possible on the range let the gun free recoil. Set it on the rest and only touch the trigger. If you have to put some pressure on the gun to maintain control during recoil you must be consistent. very difficult to do. As you are shooting a group and it is looking good you will catch yourself bearing down on it trying to make that group. Bad sign we all do it. Just get up and walk away. take a few deep breaths talk to the range master. then go back and finish the group. Remember there is no time limit.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rcoody, post: 1168689, member: 91090"] ghost Sounds like you are really serious about this stuff. For me reloading that perfect ammo is just as much fun as shooting it. I spend a lot more time at the reloading bench then I do shooting. Sounds like your rifle can do the job. Now I am going to tell you what works for me. There is a huge difference in opinions on all this stuff. You will just have to wade through it all and pick what works for you. In my 6mm long range load my ES runs around 10 and my SD's are less than 4. I use a co-ax press, forster match dies, lapua brass, CCI benchrest primers and usually berger VLD bullets although recently I have found the Lapua scenar L to be a very good bullet. Using the co-ax improves runout and using lapua brass eliminates much of your brass prep. This is a typical 5 shot group in that gun at 100 yrds. Two things I have found to be key in reducing your SD's. Neck tension consistency and accurate powder charges. consistency is the real key to everything. A good set of dies will help. There is no limit to the different methods of neck sizing. Do you want to full length resize? Ask the guys a the range that are shooting those super small groups what dies they use. Could be they are using custom dies made to fit their chamber. Have you tried just neck sizing? Bushing die? Collet die? with or without the expander ball. Wilson neck sizing die and an arbor press. the methods are endless. another thing that is very important in consistent neck tension is annealing. As that brass is fired and reloaded that brass gets work hardened. I anneal every three firings. For me it really helps In conclusion its what works for you. Consistency is what you are looking for. Now powder charges. I will get lots of flack for this one but you just read about the long range competition shooter and see how many use a electronic powder dispenser or throw charges with a powder measure and how many weigh every charge. I found that using a digital scale like the gempro 250 and holding my charge variation to less than 0.05 grains improved my SD's quite a bit. On my long range loads I weigh and trickle every charge. Now for seating depth on my long range target loads. I use either 105 berger VLD's or Lapua scenar L 105's. I jam them 0.01 into the lands. I wouldn't do that with a hunting load because most likely if you try to remove the cartridge without firing you will leave the bullet in the barrel and fill your action with powder. again I say this works for my. You have to find what works for you. Now as for holding your gun. If at all possible on the range let the gun free recoil. Set it on the rest and only touch the trigger. If you have to put some pressure on the gun to maintain control during recoil you must be consistent. very difficult to do. As you are shooting a group and it is looking good you will catch yourself bearing down on it trying to make that group. Bad sign we all do it. Just get up and walk away. take a few deep breaths talk to the range master. then go back and finish the group. Remember there is no time limit. [/QUOTE]
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