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<blockquote data-quote="AZShooter" data-source="post: 1737733" data-attributes="member: 5219"><p>Great discussion. Lightweight rifle for a tree stand? Short handy weighing perhaps 8-10 lbs would be fine.To me an important factor for tree stand shooting is the short rifle so you are not banging it on things as you reposition yourself for a shot.</p><p></p><p> As I read this thread I kept thinking of one factor that was missing then Cody said it. CHEEK WELD. Many stocks are still produced for 1" scopes with 40-42 mm front objectives. They don't work well with higher mounts. While there are many solutions to raise the height of the stock I prefer to have the stock's shape built in. </p><p></p><p>There is another thing that can be addressed which is how your trigger hand fits the stock. Some stocks have palm swells, vertical grips, curved grips etc. Some are comfortable in a variety of positions some are not. </p><p></p><p>As for thumbholes....most of them are stocks with a hole for the thumb nothing more. The originator of the Thumbhole is in Tucson. Harry Lawson Co. I knew the late Harry and visit with his son Randy often. Their thumbhole is ergonomically different. All weight is removed leaving a strong wooden stock. The grip is canted so the wrist is in a more comfortable position. The entire stock is designed to deal with recoil. </p><p></p><p>John Lazzaroni had Randy design two stocks for him which are produced by McMillan. One is the Lawson thumbhole. </p><p>Here is a link showing the Lazzaroni McMillan thumbhole:</p><p></p><p><a href="https://mcmillanusa.com/mcmillan-rifle-stocks/hunting-stocks-lazzeroni-thumbhole-sporter/" target="_blank">https://mcmillanusa.com/mcmillan-rifle-stocks/hunting-stocks-lazzeroni-thumbhole-sporter/</a></p><p></p><p>The other stock is called the Lazzaroni Sporter is another stock with excellent ergonomics. Both were designed to handle recoil but have a feel that is unique. </p><p></p><p><a href="https://mcmillanusa.com/mcmillan-rifle-stocks/hunting-stocks-lazzeroni-sporter/" target="_blank">https://mcmillanusa.com/mcmillan-rifle-stocks/hunting-stocks-lazzeroni-sporter/</a></p><p></p><p>I realize I am almost off topic. FYI the Lawson thumbhole custom rifle has a crossbolt safety so the shooter doesn't have to relocate the trigger hand to flip off the safety. </p><p>Should anyone want more information Lawson's custom shop where they build custom wood thumbholes including laminate, feel free to PM me.</p><p></p><p>Ross</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AZShooter, post: 1737733, member: 5219"] Great discussion. Lightweight rifle for a tree stand? Short handy weighing perhaps 8-10 lbs would be fine.To me an important factor for tree stand shooting is the short rifle so you are not banging it on things as you reposition yourself for a shot. As I read this thread I kept thinking of one factor that was missing then Cody said it. CHEEK WELD. Many stocks are still produced for 1" scopes with 40-42 mm front objectives. They don't work well with higher mounts. While there are many solutions to raise the height of the stock I prefer to have the stock's shape built in. There is another thing that can be addressed which is how your trigger hand fits the stock. Some stocks have palm swells, vertical grips, curved grips etc. Some are comfortable in a variety of positions some are not. As for thumbholes....most of them are stocks with a hole for the thumb nothing more. The originator of the Thumbhole is in Tucson. Harry Lawson Co. I knew the late Harry and visit with his son Randy often. Their thumbhole is ergonomically different. All weight is removed leaving a strong wooden stock. The grip is canted so the wrist is in a more comfortable position. The entire stock is designed to deal with recoil. John Lazzaroni had Randy design two stocks for him which are produced by McMillan. One is the Lawson thumbhole. Here is a link showing the Lazzaroni McMillan thumbhole: [URL]https://mcmillanusa.com/mcmillan-rifle-stocks/hunting-stocks-lazzeroni-thumbhole-sporter/[/URL] The other stock is called the Lazzaroni Sporter is another stock with excellent ergonomics. Both were designed to handle recoil but have a feel that is unique. [URL]https://mcmillanusa.com/mcmillan-rifle-stocks/hunting-stocks-lazzeroni-sporter/[/URL] I realize I am almost off topic. FYI the Lawson thumbhole custom rifle has a crossbolt safety so the shooter doesn't have to relocate the trigger hand to flip off the safety. Should anyone want more information Lawson's custom shop where they build custom wood thumbholes including laminate, feel free to PM me. Ross [/QUOTE]
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