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<blockquote data-quote="badthirtyone" data-source="post: 2473061" data-attributes="member: 9573"><p>Well, lets do a quick analysis on this one. Since you mentioned the SWAT sniper in particular, we'll focus on this.</p><p></p><p>#1, we all now wear body cameras, and that thing had better be on - especially if you are setting up for, and taking a shot. Your camera will then remain on until other units arrive (if not there already) and #2 occurs.</p><p></p><p>#2, the first thing that is done as soon as you pull the trigger - any trigger, rifle, shotgun or pistol - is that your weapon is immediately secured as soon as safety permits by another officer (usually higher ranking), so that it is preserved in exactly the condition that it was in during the shooting incident.</p><p></p><p>#3, the crime lab (in most major metro agencies), or the firearms range will then conduct a slow and thorough analysis and evaluation of the firearm and the ammunition to verify that all is within spec and as it should be functionally (ie no trigger modifications, handloads, # of rounds remaining in magazine vs rounds fired at scene).</p><p></p><p>#3.A - Unless you have fired all of the rounds in your weapon (unlikely in a rifle involved shooting), the remaining rounds would be proven to be "out of spec" in your example of being re-seated to .050" off lands - compared to department issued ammunition and the legitimacy of that ammo would be called into question. Remember, the definition of handloaded (per department policy) includes modification IN ANY WAY that changes the ammo from its original factory condition.</p><p></p><p>#4, If it is, in fact, a "righteous" shooting and all checks out with your weapon and ammunition, you are now looking at a several year process to first be cleared by the DA in your state/county, then another several year process of defending your actions in the coming civil cases - that you may or may not have qualified immunity against. </p><p></p><p></p><p>So, you tell me if there is any <em>miniscule</em> chance that you want to gamble your career, your ability to provide for your family, and potentially, your freedom on the chance that you get "caught" with out of spec ammunition after an officer involved shooting?</p><p></p><p>My life, my career, my freedom, and my family is not worth the extra 1/4 MOA.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="badthirtyone, post: 2473061, member: 9573"] Well, lets do a quick analysis on this one. Since you mentioned the SWAT sniper in particular, we'll focus on this. #1, we all now wear body cameras, and that thing had better be on - especially if you are setting up for, and taking a shot. Your camera will then remain on until other units arrive (if not there already) and #2 occurs. #2, the first thing that is done as soon as you pull the trigger - any trigger, rifle, shotgun or pistol - is that your weapon is immediately secured as soon as safety permits by another officer (usually higher ranking), so that it is preserved in exactly the condition that it was in during the shooting incident. #3, the crime lab (in most major metro agencies), or the firearms range will then conduct a slow and thorough analysis and evaluation of the firearm and the ammunition to verify that all is within spec and as it should be functionally (ie no trigger modifications, handloads, # of rounds remaining in magazine vs rounds fired at scene). #3.A - Unless you have fired all of the rounds in your weapon (unlikely in a rifle involved shooting), the remaining rounds would be proven to be "out of spec" in your example of being re-seated to .050" off lands - compared to department issued ammunition and the legitimacy of that ammo would be called into question. Remember, the definition of handloaded (per department policy) includes modification IN ANY WAY that changes the ammo from its original factory condition. #4, If it is, in fact, a "righteous" shooting and all checks out with your weapon and ammunition, you are now looking at a several year process to first be cleared by the DA in your state/county, then another several year process of defending your actions in the coming civil cases - that you may or may not have qualified immunity against. So, you tell me if there is any [I]miniscule[/I] chance that you want to gamble your career, your ability to provide for your family, and potentially, your freedom on the chance that you get "caught" with out of spec ammunition after an officer involved shooting? My life, my career, my freedom, and my family is not worth the extra 1/4 MOA. [/QUOTE]
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