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Slow fire or fast fire groups?
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<blockquote data-quote="Fiftydriver" data-source="post: 71945" data-attributes="member: 10"><p>Arthurj,</p><p></p><p>How quickly are you shooting when you do shoot your fast groups?</p><p></p><p>I would say that if you have a stress that is revealing itself in your barrel you would probably see more of an effect waiting over the 90 to 120 seconds between shots especially with the barrel you are using.</p><p></p><p>When you fast shoot, again it depends on the string you are shooting. In comp I assume you are either shooting 5 or 10 shot strings unless your shooting steel.</p><p></p><p>The 308 really does not heat up a barrel that much. With a heavier contoured barrel , it takes longer for the bore heat to heat the entire mass of the barrel and thus showing the effects of either a stress or contact with the barrel from heat expansion.</p><p></p><p>The longer you wait the more the barrel mass is heated to a point. If you wait long enough it begins to cool down of course.</p><p></p><p>I would say you may be rushing your shots a bit trying to get all the bullets in the air under the same conditions. Whatever it is, the rifle or you, it seems you get the best groups pacing your shots.</p><p></p><p>May be a good idea to start to practice shooting groups with 80 to 110 seconds between shots. If groups stay the same then cut that to 70 to 100 seconds and so on and so on until you get used to shooting with less set up time.</p><p></p><p>I suspect this is what may be happening, you are concentrating on getting the shot off quicker then your used to and as a result your not focusing on your target picture or conditions like you would with more time to shoot.</p><p></p><p>I can not tell you how conventional BR shooters shoot but I can say that the top 50 BMG 1000 yard BR shooters will wait for good shooting conditions and then lay those five big bullets out as fast as they can. </p><p></p><p>If your in the pits you better have your ducks in a row getting that target down, marked and back up as they will be wanting to shoot very quickly. </p><p></p><p>Certainly not a flame toward you in any way but if your getting quality groups shooting slow fire I would say you just need to pactice speeding up your firing sequence while still maintaining your level of concentration that you do in slow fire.</p><p></p><p>Good Shooting</p><p></p><p>Kirby Allen(50)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fiftydriver, post: 71945, member: 10"] Arthurj, How quickly are you shooting when you do shoot your fast groups? I would say that if you have a stress that is revealing itself in your barrel you would probably see more of an effect waiting over the 90 to 120 seconds between shots especially with the barrel you are using. When you fast shoot, again it depends on the string you are shooting. In comp I assume you are either shooting 5 or 10 shot strings unless your shooting steel. The 308 really does not heat up a barrel that much. With a heavier contoured barrel , it takes longer for the bore heat to heat the entire mass of the barrel and thus showing the effects of either a stress or contact with the barrel from heat expansion. The longer you wait the more the barrel mass is heated to a point. If you wait long enough it begins to cool down of course. I would say you may be rushing your shots a bit trying to get all the bullets in the air under the same conditions. Whatever it is, the rifle or you, it seems you get the best groups pacing your shots. May be a good idea to start to practice shooting groups with 80 to 110 seconds between shots. If groups stay the same then cut that to 70 to 100 seconds and so on and so on until you get used to shooting with less set up time. I suspect this is what may be happening, you are concentrating on getting the shot off quicker then your used to and as a result your not focusing on your target picture or conditions like you would with more time to shoot. I can not tell you how conventional BR shooters shoot but I can say that the top 50 BMG 1000 yard BR shooters will wait for good shooting conditions and then lay those five big bullets out as fast as they can. If your in the pits you better have your ducks in a row getting that target down, marked and back up as they will be wanting to shoot very quickly. Certainly not a flame toward you in any way but if your getting quality groups shooting slow fire I would say you just need to pactice speeding up your firing sequence while still maintaining your level of concentration that you do in slow fire. Good Shooting Kirby Allen(50) [/QUOTE]
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