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<blockquote data-quote="westcliffe01" data-source="post: 815609" data-attributes="member: 35183"><p>You know, there is no shame in "downsizing"a little as one gets older... I will also say that a 3.5# trigger pull is not the best on a precision gun. How much does the gun weigh ? That gives you an idea of the amount of force put on the weapon while trying to keep it exactly on target at the same time. You should really measure the trigger pull weight. </p><p></p><p>On my first AR 15 the trigger pull started out at close to 8lb with lots of creep. I couldn't shoot better than about 3MOA at best. I reworked the trigger in several stages and got it down to about 2lb but like that it was not safe on a semi auto. So I finally put in a "modern" CMMG trigger with the sear relocated a much longer distance from the pivot and together with some cleaning up of the MIM surfaces that did the trick. I had an instant conversion to 1MOA (this one shot the 7.62x39 round which is not exactly known for accuracy).</p><p></p><p>I then went through the same process on a Rem 700 "Classic" in 8x57 that was even heavier than the AR and it shot 4MOA at best when I got it. That was in fact the most expensive rifle I bought "out the box". Long story short, it finally got a Shilen trigger that I didn't even have to touch and a new stock and then it was an occasional 1MOA shooter. I was looking to get the barrel replaced but was let down by the barrel maker after waiting 16 weeks. So that has gone to greener pastures now.</p><p></p><p>On my Savage rifles I have to say I have been very happy with the accutrigger and none of them are even close to the lowest spring tension. I was out shooting at some steel targets I set up on the farm and at 160 yards I put 3 bullets into 1 "crater". That was the 243 AI wearing a Shilen match barrel.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="westcliffe01, post: 815609, member: 35183"] You know, there is no shame in "downsizing"a little as one gets older... I will also say that a 3.5# trigger pull is not the best on a precision gun. How much does the gun weigh ? That gives you an idea of the amount of force put on the weapon while trying to keep it exactly on target at the same time. You should really measure the trigger pull weight. On my first AR 15 the trigger pull started out at close to 8lb with lots of creep. I couldn't shoot better than about 3MOA at best. I reworked the trigger in several stages and got it down to about 2lb but like that it was not safe on a semi auto. So I finally put in a "modern" CMMG trigger with the sear relocated a much longer distance from the pivot and together with some cleaning up of the MIM surfaces that did the trick. I had an instant conversion to 1MOA (this one shot the 7.62x39 round which is not exactly known for accuracy). I then went through the same process on a Rem 700 "Classic" in 8x57 that was even heavier than the AR and it shot 4MOA at best when I got it. That was in fact the most expensive rifle I bought "out the box". Long story short, it finally got a Shilen trigger that I didn't even have to touch and a new stock and then it was an occasional 1MOA shooter. I was looking to get the barrel replaced but was let down by the barrel maker after waiting 16 weeks. So that has gone to greener pastures now. On my Savage rifles I have to say I have been very happy with the accutrigger and none of them are even close to the lowest spring tension. I was out shooting at some steel targets I set up on the farm and at 160 yards I put 3 bullets into 1 "crater". That was the 243 AI wearing a Shilen match barrel. [/QUOTE]
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