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<blockquote data-quote="comfisherman" data-source="post: 2706042" data-attributes="member: 8394"><p>I never really jumped on the Creedmoor bandwagon. Already had a 22-250 ai with lapua brass so the 22 creed was meh... I'm low on 6mm guns, having just a 243 but had a 260 when the 6.5 came out it was a flop for me. All mine had aftermarket fast twist barrels amd I hand load and each already had lapua brass. So all the benefits of factory ammo, fast twist and quality components were.... meh. Doesn't diminish the cartridges, just because it copies things that were good before its inception. </p><p></p><p>The prc is an interesting one. The 6.5 x 284 was and is a great round and very popular in the early 2000s. But as bullets grew over 130 the length began to be a real issue, so the prc was an actual solution of sorts. It was just 10 years behind the xm action... the other solution. I agree it's better suited for the 120-140 class bullets, but it with a 140 in a mountain rifle is just about right.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The 25 cal deal is probably where I'd go if I was a gun co. Just recently shot a 2506 ai a friend had built. As a kid one of the guys who took me hunting was a 257 Weatherby guy so also had some familiarity with fast 25s. Both rifles were setup more in the vein of lazzeeoni style doctrine (moderate weight bullets very fast) not the high b.c. dialing method so common the last 15 years or so. In this vein a hot 25 really does well for a lot of the game harvested in a lot of the locations it'd taken. Long range went from my focus to a tool in the hand bag, seems like the larger market is making the same transition. Bullets are getting slightly lighter, rifles are getting shorter barrels for cans and were splitting the velocity/b.c. paradox. </p><p></p><p></p><p>A 25 prc would be faster than a 6mm prc because of bore efficiency, but still maintain relatively ok weight and b.c. I think selling it as a short action 2506 will go a lot farther than the 25wssm. In something like a kimber open country you would have a pretty viable rifle for mpbr and with a decent optic also the capacity to dial a bit further. All in a package in the mid 8 lbds, recoil with 120s will be good and on game it will hit a bit harder than most 6mm game bullets if even only a little. </p><p></p><p>As someone not currently holding any 25s in my stable, fingers crossed they make one.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="comfisherman, post: 2706042, member: 8394"] I never really jumped on the Creedmoor bandwagon. Already had a 22-250 ai with lapua brass so the 22 creed was meh... I'm low on 6mm guns, having just a 243 but had a 260 when the 6.5 came out it was a flop for me. All mine had aftermarket fast twist barrels amd I hand load and each already had lapua brass. So all the benefits of factory ammo, fast twist and quality components were.... meh. Doesn't diminish the cartridges, just because it copies things that were good before its inception. The prc is an interesting one. The 6.5 x 284 was and is a great round and very popular in the early 2000s. But as bullets grew over 130 the length began to be a real issue, so the prc was an actual solution of sorts. It was just 10 years behind the xm action... the other solution. I agree it's better suited for the 120-140 class bullets, but it with a 140 in a mountain rifle is just about right. The 25 cal deal is probably where I'd go if I was a gun co. Just recently shot a 2506 ai a friend had built. As a kid one of the guys who took me hunting was a 257 Weatherby guy so also had some familiarity with fast 25s. Both rifles were setup more in the vein of lazzeeoni style doctrine (moderate weight bullets very fast) not the high b.c. dialing method so common the last 15 years or so. In this vein a hot 25 really does well for a lot of the game harvested in a lot of the locations it'd taken. Long range went from my focus to a tool in the hand bag, seems like the larger market is making the same transition. Bullets are getting slightly lighter, rifles are getting shorter barrels for cans and were splitting the velocity/b.c. paradox. A 25 prc would be faster than a 6mm prc because of bore efficiency, but still maintain relatively ok weight and b.c. I think selling it as a short action 2506 will go a lot farther than the 25wssm. In something like a kimber open country you would have a pretty viable rifle for mpbr and with a decent optic also the capacity to dial a bit further. All in a package in the mid 8 lbds, recoil with 120s will be good and on game it will hit a bit harder than most 6mm game bullets if even only a little. As someone not currently holding any 25s in my stable, fingers crossed they make one. [/QUOTE]
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