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Shilen vs er shaw
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<blockquote data-quote="westcliffe01" data-source="post: 795808" data-attributes="member: 35183"><p>A Savage target action is about $450 in stainless steel, has a floating bolt head so the bolt does not need trueing and the general consensus is that there is nothing to be gained by trueing a Savage action. The fact that you can screw on a finished machined $330 prefit Shilen Select match barrel on a Savage is the entire reason the pre-fit market exists.</p><p></p><p>Now if you go to a different type of receiver, like a Remington, which does not have a floating bolt head and which is made with sloppy tolerances, yes, standardization basically goes out the window. People can hate on the Remington discussion all they like, but custom rifle smiths will admit that customers will save money by directly buying a custom precision receiver like a Stiller. At the same time, the smith will make less money on the deal, since the Stiller is a pass through item, vs direct labor for trueing the Rem 700 action + custom fitting the barrel tenon. On the other hand, the smith can produce rifles faster with a Stiller and buy in finished barrels and can have the receiver personalized for his business.</p><p></p><p>What you should do is up to you. There are many writers on this very forum who advocate the Savage / Stevens action for low budget long range builds and I agree. I have not been able to find a smith in my region (SE MI) to work on my Rem 700 project within a reasonable amount of time and for (what I consider to be) a reasonable cost. I already own the rifle, which is why I want to use it.</p><p></p><p>If you have a home shop and want to do your own work, then for sure a Rem 700 may be a good base to work from, but not when you are spending "real money" paying someone else. If instead you buy a Stiller or a Pierce Engineering receiver, then it will always have a higher resale value than any "trued" Remington 700 receiver, regardless of how much money you spend to have it trued. Similar to dropping a big V8 under the hood of an S10, you will still get S10 money for it if you sell, even if it will keep up with a Ferarri.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="westcliffe01, post: 795808, member: 35183"] A Savage target action is about $450 in stainless steel, has a floating bolt head so the bolt does not need trueing and the general consensus is that there is nothing to be gained by trueing a Savage action. The fact that you can screw on a finished machined $330 prefit Shilen Select match barrel on a Savage is the entire reason the pre-fit market exists. Now if you go to a different type of receiver, like a Remington, which does not have a floating bolt head and which is made with sloppy tolerances, yes, standardization basically goes out the window. People can hate on the Remington discussion all they like, but custom rifle smiths will admit that customers will save money by directly buying a custom precision receiver like a Stiller. At the same time, the smith will make less money on the deal, since the Stiller is a pass through item, vs direct labor for trueing the Rem 700 action + custom fitting the barrel tenon. On the other hand, the smith can produce rifles faster with a Stiller and buy in finished barrels and can have the receiver personalized for his business. What you should do is up to you. There are many writers on this very forum who advocate the Savage / Stevens action for low budget long range builds and I agree. I have not been able to find a smith in my region (SE MI) to work on my Rem 700 project within a reasonable amount of time and for (what I consider to be) a reasonable cost. I already own the rifle, which is why I want to use it. If you have a home shop and want to do your own work, then for sure a Rem 700 may be a good base to work from, but not when you are spending "real money" paying someone else. If instead you buy a Stiller or a Pierce Engineering receiver, then it will always have a higher resale value than any "trued" Remington 700 receiver, regardless of how much money you spend to have it trued. Similar to dropping a big V8 under the hood of an S10, you will still get S10 money for it if you sell, even if it will keep up with a Ferarri. [/QUOTE]
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