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<blockquote data-quote="Kevin Thomas" data-source="post: 434288" data-attributes="member: 15748"><p>Gotta go with JE on this one. Guns are dangerous, and wouldn't be of much use if they weren't. The question to me (which I didn't think was adequately asked and answered in the MSNBC piece) is, "is the fire control system safe as designed, and in its original factory configuration?" If it is, and later fails due to improper adjustment, poor maintanence, etc., then that's not truly a design problem. I've seen and experienced an AD with an M700 some time back when taking the safety off. No injuries, no damage done, because the gun was pointed in a safe direction at the time. If I recall correctly, there was a recall or advisory (related specifically to discharges when the safety was shifted to "FIRE") done by Remington at that time, and I haven't seen a repeat of that problem since. In the meantime, I don't know how many of you have done any pistol smithing with S&Ws, ut if you ever see how much contact there is between the hammer and trigger sear engagement when firing single action, it'll scare you. Ditto for a 1911 sear, and a host of others. Like I said, they're dangerous. If they "correct" some of these design features, we can all just get used to long, creepy 14 lb triggers from this point forward.</p><p> </p><p>A gun which fails to fire when properly loaded with the correct ammunition, is inadequate to the pressures of the normal ammo it's intended to be loaded with, or discharges every time it's handled in any way, fine, those are defects that one should be able to sue for. This one, I don't think rises to that level. </p><p> </p><p>I can feel for the families loss, but this isn't soley the fault of the trigger issue alone.</p><p> </p><p>Kevin Thomas</p><p>Lapua USA</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kevin Thomas, post: 434288, member: 15748"] Gotta go with JE on this one. Guns are dangerous, and wouldn't be of much use if they weren't. The question to me (which I didn't think was adequately asked and answered in the MSNBC piece) is, "is the fire control system safe as designed, and in its original factory configuration?" If it is, and later fails due to improper adjustment, poor maintanence, etc., then that's not truly a design problem. I've seen and experienced an AD with an M700 some time back when taking the safety off. No injuries, no damage done, because the gun was pointed in a safe direction at the time. If I recall correctly, there was a recall or advisory (related specifically to discharges when the safety was shifted to "FIRE") done by Remington at that time, and I haven't seen a repeat of that problem since. In the meantime, I don't know how many of you have done any pistol smithing with S&Ws, ut if you ever see how much contact there is between the hammer and trigger sear engagement when firing single action, it'll scare you. Ditto for a 1911 sear, and a host of others. Like I said, they're dangerous. If they "correct" some of these design features, we can all just get used to long, creepy 14 lb triggers from this point forward. A gun which fails to fire when properly loaded with the correct ammunition, is inadequate to the pressures of the normal ammo it's intended to be loaded with, or discharges every time it's handled in any way, fine, those are defects that one should be able to sue for. This one, I don't think rises to that level. I can feel for the families loss, but this isn't soley the fault of the trigger issue alone. Kevin Thomas Lapua USA [/QUOTE]
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