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<blockquote data-quote="Alex Wheeler" data-source="post: 2117316" data-attributes="member: 101859"><p>You may be surprised to hear that in 1000yd BR es is not really talked about. Why? Because if the group is small what else matters? I have seen many sub 2" groups with 20 fps es. I shot a 3.5" this am with 30 fps of es. I have lost count of the 1000s of rounds fired at 1k for group. ES doesn't mean a thing. Groups do. In fact, I would bet when tuning at 1k your best es load will not be your smallest group. I mean ever, we see that so consistently its not funny. I time every rifle I build. I dont tumble or clean brass at all. Annealing is not a given, most 1k br Agg records are shot without annealing brass. I shot a couple agg records one year, I ran non in LG and annealed in HG for a whole season just to test. That year I broke 2 HG agg records. But the LG shot just as small when conditions were equal. I just got better conditions for my HG targets. So many facts, are not. Testing for yourself will never be out done.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alex Wheeler, post: 2117316, member: 101859"] You may be surprised to hear that in 1000yd BR es is not really talked about. Why? Because if the group is small what else matters? I have seen many sub 2" groups with 20 fps es. I shot a 3.5" this am with 30 fps of es. I have lost count of the 1000s of rounds fired at 1k for group. ES doesn't mean a thing. Groups do. In fact, I would bet when tuning at 1k your best es load will not be your smallest group. I mean ever, we see that so consistently its not funny. I time every rifle I build. I dont tumble or clean brass at all. Annealing is not a given, most 1k br Agg records are shot without annealing brass. I shot a couple agg records one year, I ran non in LG and annealed in HG for a whole season just to test. That year I broke 2 HG agg records. But the LG shot just as small when conditions were equal. I just got better conditions for my HG targets. So many facts, are not. Testing for yourself will never be out done. [/QUOTE]
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