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Pros and cons for 300 Win Mag and 338 Lapua Mag
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<blockquote data-quote="surgeon260" data-source="post: 1396908" data-attributes="member: 103874"><p>As an introduction to ELR, out of the two cartridges you listed I would pick 300WM. It is simply the less extreme choice and will be easier for an ELR-beginner to master. It has more than enough capability to scratch the itch at 1600 yards without moving to the much more extreme 338 Lapua. You didn't mention what cartridges you currently shoot, but if you don't have a lot of magnum experience, the Lapua will definitely highlight any deficiencies in shooting technique.</p><p></p><p>I agree with what has been said on the COAL considerations for the Lapua, and that is why I am not a fan of the Lapua in a repeater. A 300 grain bullet in the Lapua loaded to SAAMI length takes up tons of case capacity. The forthcoming 329 Berger will only exacerbate this problem. This issue can be somewhat mitigated by a CIP length magazine system (an AICS CIP magazine has an internal length of 3.76"), but that still isn't enough room to load the 300/329 grain bullets out of the powder column. For this reason, I believe the Lapua is best suited to single shot rifles with long throats. You are leaving performance on the table with a magazine system, but still incurring the massive costs associated with the Lapua cartridge (recoil, brass/ammunition prices, .590" bolt face requirement, etc). </p><p></p><p>If you want a repeating 338, I would highly recommend you look at the 338 Norma instead of the Lapua. Since the Norma case is shorter, you can load the heavies out of the powder column and still fit in a CIP magazine. And now Lapua is making brass for the Norma magnums, so the brass quality advantage held by the 338 Lapua is eliminated. My 338 Norma Improved and a 28" barrel will easily push 300 grain Bergers above 2900, so you will give up nothing in performance to the 338 Lapua.</p><p></p><p>All of that being said, my choice for a 1600+ yard cartridge would be the 300 Norma (or better yet, an improved version). It will give you ballistics that are superior the the 338 Lapua out to 1600 yards, with less recoil to boot. And Lapua brass!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="surgeon260, post: 1396908, member: 103874"] As an introduction to ELR, out of the two cartridges you listed I would pick 300WM. It is simply the less extreme choice and will be easier for an ELR-beginner to master. It has more than enough capability to scratch the itch at 1600 yards without moving to the much more extreme 338 Lapua. You didn't mention what cartridges you currently shoot, but if you don't have a lot of magnum experience, the Lapua will definitely highlight any deficiencies in shooting technique. I agree with what has been said on the COAL considerations for the Lapua, and that is why I am not a fan of the Lapua in a repeater. A 300 grain bullet in the Lapua loaded to SAAMI length takes up tons of case capacity. The forthcoming 329 Berger will only exacerbate this problem. This issue can be somewhat mitigated by a CIP length magazine system (an AICS CIP magazine has an internal length of 3.76"), but that still isn't enough room to load the 300/329 grain bullets out of the powder column. For this reason, I believe the Lapua is best suited to single shot rifles with long throats. You are leaving performance on the table with a magazine system, but still incurring the massive costs associated with the Lapua cartridge (recoil, brass/ammunition prices, .590" bolt face requirement, etc). If you want a repeating 338, I would highly recommend you look at the 338 Norma instead of the Lapua. Since the Norma case is shorter, you can load the heavies out of the powder column and still fit in a CIP magazine. And now Lapua is making brass for the Norma magnums, so the brass quality advantage held by the 338 Lapua is eliminated. My 338 Norma Improved and a 28" barrel will easily push 300 grain Bergers above 2900, so you will give up nothing in performance to the 338 Lapua. All of that being said, my choice for a 1600+ yard cartridge would be the 300 Norma (or better yet, an improved version). It will give you ballistics that are superior the the 338 Lapua out to 1600 yards, with less recoil to boot. And Lapua brass! [/QUOTE]
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