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Practical Hunting Accuracy - Truth and Reality
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<blockquote data-quote="DoneNOut" data-source="post: 2877665" data-attributes="member: 113404"><p>Must apply reasonable expectations accordingly to the firearm platform.</p><p></p><p>The display was done with factory offerings and factory ammo. The rifles were thin barreled stalker type rifles. It is no surprise the ave was 1.8 MOA. In fact, that was better than I expected by a lot! I see no point shooting these pencil barreled guns more than 3 times. The heat builds quickly and they begin to wonder after two shots in succession. </p><p></p><p>I had a 6.5lbs total weight Kimber 84 Hunter in 708. When I load developed for that gun, I only concerned myself with the first two shots fired cold. With good handloading I would see .0something MOA. 3 shots and I'd see the groups open a bit, .1s-.3s MOA. Shots 4 and 5 I was looking at 1.5 and more MOA size groups. However, I completely understood why that was happening and expected it. Time after time I could take that Kimber out and needle those first two shots. SUCCESS! </p><p></p><p>Now, if my LR and ELR rigs shot like that I would throw them in a dumpster, light it on fire, and push it off a cliff! (Minus scopes, accessories, etc, LOL) Think bout the differences though. Barrels are thicker, .850 or more at the muzzle, rifle total weight is heavier (I even add weights these rigs) triggers are 1lbs and less, so I fully expect to see 5 rounds in practically the same hole. 10 round strings I see .5MOA consistently. I will use these guns, what I call my "range guns" to LR hunt. Totally difference platforms being compared here.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DoneNOut, post: 2877665, member: 113404"] Must apply reasonable expectations accordingly to the firearm platform. The display was done with factory offerings and factory ammo. The rifles were thin barreled stalker type rifles. It is no surprise the ave was 1.8 MOA. In fact, that was better than I expected by a lot! I see no point shooting these pencil barreled guns more than 3 times. The heat builds quickly and they begin to wonder after two shots in succession. I had a 6.5lbs total weight Kimber 84 Hunter in 708. When I load developed for that gun, I only concerned myself with the first two shots fired cold. With good handloading I would see .0something MOA. 3 shots and I'd see the groups open a bit, .1s-.3s MOA. Shots 4 and 5 I was looking at 1.5 and more MOA size groups. However, I completely understood why that was happening and expected it. Time after time I could take that Kimber out and needle those first two shots. SUCCESS! Now, if my LR and ELR rigs shot like that I would throw them in a dumpster, light it on fire, and push it off a cliff! (Minus scopes, accessories, etc, LOL) Think bout the differences though. Barrels are thicker, .850 or more at the muzzle, rifle total weight is heavier (I even add weights these rigs) triggers are 1lbs and less, so I fully expect to see 5 rounds in practically the same hole. 10 round strings I see .5MOA consistently. I will use these guns, what I call my "range guns" to LR hunt. Totally difference platforms being compared here. [/QUOTE]
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