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<blockquote data-quote="Deleted member 71114" data-source="post: 1355944"><p>Every so often when someone pushes the limits and connects on a target be it 10 rounds or 50 there is a new record set. Most of the time it could be for personal accomplishments that goes out of control with chatter in the mist of the shooting community and our media. Supposedly Charlie Mike hitting 5000 was for a personal goal - I would say it also draws shooters to his rifle builds and training as a perk to draw income, good advertising in a way. As far a the 5000 yard hit I read the story that was written and here as seen in other achievement write ups the author or editor can really destroy a good feat by the way they over exaggerate certain stages in the skill set or don't have a clue as to what their saying that stands out in the more experienced crowd. I not making excuses or standing up for Charlie - don't know him.</p><p></p><p>I do appreciate pushing the limits to what folks say can't be done, this has only pushed the industry to make it capable of what we can achieve in distance today with a given amount of accuracy and consistency.</p><p></p><p>As far as the event the KO2M</p><p>Here again they get a bad rap for the name not not matching the farthest target. They have 3 years under their belt now. This event has pushed our industry in the long range shooting community hard. It also has encouraged other events to start up and the start of some type of consistency in the rules is developing. I hope there is a day when the last target is a true two miles to calm all those who have an issue with the name, they work hard in Raton, NM to put on a event for folks to come and shoot. Here again I have seen articles or write ups that make no sense, the author itemized every piece and blew things way out of portion of what was needed to shoot ELR.</p><p></p><p>The most important aspect of comparing how the shooters at the KO2M averaged in consistency and accuracy versus the 5000 yard Charlie Mike, the individual in the Texas that has walked his way out, Adam and others.</p><p></p><p>Is that most of these personal record shooters shot in conditions that were to their best adavantage. Hell even when I'm shooting for RnD I always hope for a calm overcast day or try to find the right time of the day to get the best hits and results if possible.</p><p></p><p>At the KO2M for example - because so many think they could out shoot the majority that were there, The KO2M shooters had to get to the line with 2 minutes to get their equipment ready, then take whatever wind conditions they were handed out at that moment in the valley and mountain side, locate and fire at 5 targets with in a 9 minute time limit. Other then having a accurate rifle and load, the communications with the spotter trying to see any bullet splash or trace through a spotting scope under pressure and giving good feedback and corrections while under pressure as time was ticking away was a very important part of success in the game. Wind calls/corrections, locating the targets asap both shooter and spotter, adjusting and hoping to see impacts on or off the target then being calm about giving correct adjustments was the most important tool in the game between shooter/spotter team work.</p><p></p><p>This is a whole different game then being kicked back with your buds waiting for the wind to calm down some while shooting in your comfort zone.</p><p></p><p>Cheers</p><p>Osoh</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Deleted member 71114, post: 1355944"] Every so often when someone pushes the limits and connects on a target be it 10 rounds or 50 there is a new record set. Most of the time it could be for personal accomplishments that goes out of control with chatter in the mist of the shooting community and our media. Supposedly Charlie Mike hitting 5000 was for a personal goal - I would say it also draws shooters to his rifle builds and training as a perk to draw income, good advertising in a way. As far a the 5000 yard hit I read the story that was written and here as seen in other achievement write ups the author or editor can really destroy a good feat by the way they over exaggerate certain stages in the skill set or don't have a clue as to what their saying that stands out in the more experienced crowd. I not making excuses or standing up for Charlie - don't know him. I do appreciate pushing the limits to what folks say can't be done, this has only pushed the industry to make it capable of what we can achieve in distance today with a given amount of accuracy and consistency. As far as the event the KO2M Here again they get a bad rap for the name not not matching the farthest target. They have 3 years under their belt now. This event has pushed our industry in the long range shooting community hard. It also has encouraged other events to start up and the start of some type of consistency in the rules is developing. I hope there is a day when the last target is a true two miles to calm all those who have an issue with the name, they work hard in Raton, NM to put on a event for folks to come and shoot. Here again I have seen articles or write ups that make no sense, the author itemized every piece and blew things way out of portion of what was needed to shoot ELR. The most important aspect of comparing how the shooters at the KO2M averaged in consistency and accuracy versus the 5000 yard Charlie Mike, the individual in the Texas that has walked his way out, Adam and others. Is that most of these personal record shooters shot in conditions that were to their best adavantage. Hell even when I'm shooting for RnD I always hope for a calm overcast day or try to find the right time of the day to get the best hits and results if possible. At the KO2M for example - because so many think they could out shoot the majority that were there, The KO2M shooters had to get to the line with 2 minutes to get their equipment ready, then take whatever wind conditions they were handed out at that moment in the valley and mountain side, locate and fire at 5 targets with in a 9 minute time limit. Other then having a accurate rifle and load, the communications with the spotter trying to see any bullet splash or trace through a spotting scope under pressure and giving good feedback and corrections while under pressure as time was ticking away was a very important part of success in the game. Wind calls/corrections, locating the targets asap both shooter and spotter, adjusting and hoping to see impacts on or off the target then being calm about giving correct adjustments was the most important tool in the game between shooter/spotter team work. This is a whole different game then being kicked back with your buds waiting for the wind to calm down some while shooting in your comfort zone. Cheers Osoh [/QUOTE]
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