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Nosler AB Long Range No Good?
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<blockquote data-quote="Timber338" data-source="post: 965937" data-attributes="member: 33822"><p>Fair question, and not really sure how to answer in a forum setting. Is there a line we're not supposed to cross with questions like this? Short answer is yes, along with my background in aerospace engineering I know my way around a manufacturing operation. But, did not really want to take this thread into that detail beyond the fact that there's a higher chance of getting a bad box of bullets (based on my own opinion/experience). Other companies do have a higher level of process control in their manufacturing operation, but even then a bad box will slide through. I think it is a rare occurrence from any company.</p><p></p><p>And Michael, exactly to your point, is why I sent the bullets to another forum member to provide results from a different gun. I offered the bullets up based on the goal of receiving feedback on their accuracy. I was pretty disappointed to never hear back. Back to the bullets, I think I got a bad box. They shot very poorly out of a very good gun. But I admit my process control to investigate the problem was lacking as well. Any other bullet of the same weight and different weight has shot sub 1/2 moa out of my rifle. To your 190vld not shooting, if you've shot different lots with the same results, then almost a statistical impossibility to be a bullet quality issue, so I completely agree with you. Could my gun just not agree with the 210 ALR? yup. But I don't think so. If/when the 210 ALR is available I would like to give them another try mostly because of my own curiosity. But I'm not holding my breath waiting for them when the Berger 210 and 215 are both shooting in the low .3's.</p><p></p><p>Big picture I think Nosler makes some good products. I think you have to be pretty unlucky to get a bad box, which I think is why the details of any companies process control is kind of insignificant. From what I can tell, the majority of people shooting the 210 ALR have had good accuracy. Certainly much better than the 1.5 - 3 moa I was getting.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Timber338, post: 965937, member: 33822"] Fair question, and not really sure how to answer in a forum setting. Is there a line we're not supposed to cross with questions like this? Short answer is yes, along with my background in aerospace engineering I know my way around a manufacturing operation. But, did not really want to take this thread into that detail beyond the fact that there's a higher chance of getting a bad box of bullets (based on my own opinion/experience). Other companies do have a higher level of process control in their manufacturing operation, but even then a bad box will slide through. I think it is a rare occurrence from any company. And Michael, exactly to your point, is why I sent the bullets to another forum member to provide results from a different gun. I offered the bullets up based on the goal of receiving feedback on their accuracy. I was pretty disappointed to never hear back. Back to the bullets, I think I got a bad box. They shot very poorly out of a very good gun. But I admit my process control to investigate the problem was lacking as well. Any other bullet of the same weight and different weight has shot sub 1/2 moa out of my rifle. To your 190vld not shooting, if you've shot different lots with the same results, then almost a statistical impossibility to be a bullet quality issue, so I completely agree with you. Could my gun just not agree with the 210 ALR? yup. But I don't think so. If/when the 210 ALR is available I would like to give them another try mostly because of my own curiosity. But I'm not holding my breath waiting for them when the Berger 210 and 215 are both shooting in the low .3's. Big picture I think Nosler makes some good products. I think you have to be pretty unlucky to get a bad box, which I think is why the details of any companies process control is kind of insignificant. From what I can tell, the majority of people shooting the 210 ALR have had good accuracy. Certainly much better than the 1.5 - 3 moa I was getting. [/QUOTE]
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