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Non-recovered Elk - my fault or bullet failure or both?
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<blockquote data-quote="Raudy707" data-source="post: 2950602" data-attributes="member: 105681"><p>Nothin worse than losing an elk! So much meat. I'm bummed for you. Wish you could have gotten a blood dog or something out there to help you. We've killed 5 bulls and cows with the 175 Berger Elite out of our 280 AI's. My daughter punched one right through the shoulder blade, lungs and out the opposite rib cage at 350 yds. I don't think the bullet failed you. I just got back from Idaho. Shot a cow with my 270 wsm, 170 grain Berger EOL at 505 yds. Velocity is 3020 fps so a little faster then the 280 AI with the 175. She was quartering away and I was 10 degrees below her. Aiming for the opposite shoulder I hit her right in the paunch, low, it blew up the bag went through 30 lbs of feed and got the opposite side lung. Barely! The rear part of the lung was damaged but she wasn't stopping. It slowed her enough she fell back as the herd left. She stood in the quakies and I feathered a follow up shot in the only place I could. Upper shoulder and it traveled forward and broke her neck. Dropped at the shot. The Berger's are fragile for sure, but beyond 300 yds they will penetrate even if you contact heavy bone. Long story long, I can't help but think shot placement was the issue. It happens to all of us if you hunt long enough. Fortunately for me I have had the benefits of a blood dog and always found my crippled animals, but I've had family and friends lose a few deer and bear. It just sucks but I'm sure you'll learn from it and be a better hunter moving forward.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Raudy707, post: 2950602, member: 105681"] Nothin worse than losing an elk! So much meat. I'm bummed for you. Wish you could have gotten a blood dog or something out there to help you. We've killed 5 bulls and cows with the 175 Berger Elite out of our 280 AI's. My daughter punched one right through the shoulder blade, lungs and out the opposite rib cage at 350 yds. I don't think the bullet failed you. I just got back from Idaho. Shot a cow with my 270 wsm, 170 grain Berger EOL at 505 yds. Velocity is 3020 fps so a little faster then the 280 AI with the 175. She was quartering away and I was 10 degrees below her. Aiming for the opposite shoulder I hit her right in the paunch, low, it blew up the bag went through 30 lbs of feed and got the opposite side lung. Barely! The rear part of the lung was damaged but she wasn't stopping. It slowed her enough she fell back as the herd left. She stood in the quakies and I feathered a follow up shot in the only place I could. Upper shoulder and it traveled forward and broke her neck. Dropped at the shot. The Berger's are fragile for sure, but beyond 300 yds they will penetrate even if you contact heavy bone. Long story long, I can't help but think shot placement was the issue. It happens to all of us if you hunt long enough. Fortunately for me I have had the benefits of a blood dog and always found my crippled animals, but I've had family and friends lose a few deer and bear. It just sucks but I'm sure you'll learn from it and be a better hunter moving forward. [/QUOTE]
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