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<blockquote data-quote="Fiftydriver" data-source="post: 56432" data-attributes="member: 10"><p>Iron Worker,</p><p></p><p>I guess it all depends on what brand of AR you have and the options and condition it is in.</p><p></p><p>I looked up the LV-SF and I could bring one in for resale at around $700.</p><p></p><p>I do not know what brand of AR you have but I looked up the Bushmaster rifles and on the low end they are running in the $800 range and top end they are at nearly $1500 depending on model and options you get.</p><p></p><p>So if your AR is a quality built one which I would imagine it is, and if it is in good condition, I would say the dealer would be getting a much better deal then you would be getting.</p><p></p><p>I can understand wanting to get out from under the AR being in California and the LV-SF would be a much better varminter and yote rifle so it would have to be your decision.</p><p></p><p>If you have a top end AR of any brand, I would say that you would be loosing money trading straight across on the rifles, at least this is what the dealer prices I am lloking at now tells me for both rifles.</p><p></p><p>If you have used your AR alot then it may be a good trade.</p><p></p><p>As far as Rem quality control, I guess I am a bad person to ask in a sence because as a custom rifle builder I get to see what is on the inside of these factory action, all factory actions and actually measure the problem areas to see just how bad they are.</p><p></p><p>My opoinion is that for how these rifles are built, they shoot far better then one would imaging they should.</p><p></p><p>That said, there are some that shoot extemely well out of the box with only a trigger job. I would certainly say that it would average tighter groups then your AR unless you AR has been fully accurized.</p><p></p><p>To be honest, I am have not been really impressed with the QD from Remington but I would not say they are any worse then anyone else and they are better then alot of them.</p><p></p><p>Just really depends on how bad you want to trade off your AR and get into a bolt gun.</p><p></p><p>Personally, I think Rem is charging to much for this LV-SF for what they are offering. The ones I have shot and from those that I talk to about other LV-SF rifles they are pretty good shooters for a light weight, 22" rifle but in all honestly, the standard ADL rifles I have shot perform just as well with a trigger job and possible a fresh crown to clean up the factory cut.</p><p></p><p>And they are running in the $400 range or a bit under for the short action varmint rounds and they are available in the 204, 223, 22-250 and 243 for varmint and dog hunters.</p><p></p><p>They are blued barreled actions but thsi is prefered to the stainless for coyote hunting, so better concealment qualities, at least up here in MT this is preferred.</p><p></p><p>And besided the Stainless action, they use the same action and barreling process. Your basically paying +$300 for a different style stock, and stainless steel. Thats alot more then it should be in my opinion.</p><p></p><p>Good Shooting!!</p><p></p><p>Kirby Allen(50)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fiftydriver, post: 56432, member: 10"] Iron Worker, I guess it all depends on what brand of AR you have and the options and condition it is in. I looked up the LV-SF and I could bring one in for resale at around $700. I do not know what brand of AR you have but I looked up the Bushmaster rifles and on the low end they are running in the $800 range and top end they are at nearly $1500 depending on model and options you get. So if your AR is a quality built one which I would imagine it is, and if it is in good condition, I would say the dealer would be getting a much better deal then you would be getting. I can understand wanting to get out from under the AR being in California and the LV-SF would be a much better varminter and yote rifle so it would have to be your decision. If you have a top end AR of any brand, I would say that you would be loosing money trading straight across on the rifles, at least this is what the dealer prices I am lloking at now tells me for both rifles. If you have used your AR alot then it may be a good trade. As far as Rem quality control, I guess I am a bad person to ask in a sence because as a custom rifle builder I get to see what is on the inside of these factory action, all factory actions and actually measure the problem areas to see just how bad they are. My opoinion is that for how these rifles are built, they shoot far better then one would imaging they should. That said, there are some that shoot extemely well out of the box with only a trigger job. I would certainly say that it would average tighter groups then your AR unless you AR has been fully accurized. To be honest, I am have not been really impressed with the QD from Remington but I would not say they are any worse then anyone else and they are better then alot of them. Just really depends on how bad you want to trade off your AR and get into a bolt gun. Personally, I think Rem is charging to much for this LV-SF for what they are offering. The ones I have shot and from those that I talk to about other LV-SF rifles they are pretty good shooters for a light weight, 22" rifle but in all honestly, the standard ADL rifles I have shot perform just as well with a trigger job and possible a fresh crown to clean up the factory cut. And they are running in the $400 range or a bit under for the short action varmint rounds and they are available in the 204, 223, 22-250 and 243 for varmint and dog hunters. They are blued barreled actions but thsi is prefered to the stainless for coyote hunting, so better concealment qualities, at least up here in MT this is preferred. And besided the Stainless action, they use the same action and barreling process. Your basically paying +$300 for a different style stock, and stainless steel. Thats alot more then it should be in my opinion. Good Shooting!! Kirby Allen(50) [/QUOTE]
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