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No Hydrodynamic Shock Below 2600FPS??
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<blockquote data-quote="Orange Dust" data-source="post: 2515811" data-attributes="member: 92702"><p>I cannot dispute this. I killed 18 bucks in a row with a .220 Swift shooting the old Nosler 50gr solid base bullet, no longer made. Load was 40.2 grs of 4064 in a 26" Heavy Varmint. Every animal would collapse on his front feet. Range on most was 200 or less. What was interesting is that all the deer's blood would be jelled in a ball about 8" in diameter in his lung cavity when shot fairly close. When dressing them, you could cut them anywhere else and there would be very little or no blood. Bullet would usually exit over 100yds. Quit using the little gun because I wanted more range and penetration. Shot about that many more with a .257 Weatherby. Started with 100gr bullets. Found out it killed better and further with 117's. Then the 7's and 300's. Each killed further. then the hopped up 8mag with Warren Jenson's fantastic 210gr J26's @3300. Some of those may still be flying. Had a .375 and a 458 for awhile. They seemed to kill well as far as you could hit anything. .22Mag is far and away the most popular cartridge of the night hunters in Louisiana. They have no problem killing and finding deer at night. My point? I really don't think it matters all that much as long as the bullet expands and has sufficient penetration to tear up body parts necessary for life. While I believe the Swift relied on whatever you are calling shock these days for instant or nearly so kills, All the others killed just as well. Whenever the Temp wound channel overlaps big nerves the animal falls, shock or not. Otherwise, they may run a little ways. Some might get pretty far. I've always been amazed at an animal's will to live and get away, Sometimes with some gruesome holes in them. A large drain hole is a blessing on those that run off. Now adays I always shoot them with something that will provide one. I like to do all my hunting before I pull the trigger. Getting old I guess.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Orange Dust, post: 2515811, member: 92702"] I cannot dispute this. I killed 18 bucks in a row with a .220 Swift shooting the old Nosler 50gr solid base bullet, no longer made. Load was 40.2 grs of 4064 in a 26" Heavy Varmint. Every animal would collapse on his front feet. Range on most was 200 or less. What was interesting is that all the deer's blood would be jelled in a ball about 8" in diameter in his lung cavity when shot fairly close. When dressing them, you could cut them anywhere else and there would be very little or no blood. Bullet would usually exit over 100yds. Quit using the little gun because I wanted more range and penetration. Shot about that many more with a .257 Weatherby. Started with 100gr bullets. Found out it killed better and further with 117's. Then the 7's and 300's. Each killed further. then the hopped up 8mag with Warren Jenson's fantastic 210gr J26's @3300. Some of those may still be flying. Had a .375 and a 458 for awhile. They seemed to kill well as far as you could hit anything. .22Mag is far and away the most popular cartridge of the night hunters in Louisiana. They have no problem killing and finding deer at night. My point? I really don't think it matters all that much as long as the bullet expands and has sufficient penetration to tear up body parts necessary for life. While I believe the Swift relied on whatever you are calling shock these days for instant or nearly so kills, All the others killed just as well. Whenever the Temp wound channel overlaps big nerves the animal falls, shock or not. Otherwise, they may run a little ways. Some might get pretty far. I've always been amazed at an animal's will to live and get away, Sometimes with some gruesome holes in them. A large drain hole is a blessing on those that run off. Now adays I always shoot them with something that will provide one. I like to do all my hunting before I pull the trigger. Getting old I guess. [/QUOTE]
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