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<blockquote data-quote="Tac-O" data-source="post: 1656940" data-attributes="member: 109994"><p>So.... after remounting my scope and having someone at the range (who was shooting a light 300winmag under 1") shoot my gun, I'm pretty confident that my Remington 783 is a dud. I went back and checked my actual round count, which is 160 rounds. Plenty of rounds to get this barrel broken in and smoothed. I went from at least 12" spread right out of the box to somewhere around 4" at 100 yards after pillar and glass bedding and lots of ammo. I believe I'm done with this gun and will replace it before I waste more time and money on it.</p><p></p><p>So, I've looked around the last couple of days and have been trying to decide between the Tikka t3x superlite ($750 at sportsmans) and the Remington AWR ($800 at cabelas), still in .30 06. My current goal is to be able to reliably take an animal at 400-500 yards. I'd like a gun that is mostly impervious to the elements and is lightweight enough to haul around the mountains for extended periods and is of a quality that it can be hard used and be kept around for years and years. I checked out both in store yesterday.</p><p></p><p>Tikka: I don't like the plastic nature of the tikka, but the trigger guard can be replaced and I can live with cheap looking stock at long as the gun is accurate. The Tikkas seems to have a great reputation for being very accurate out of box. Yes, the superlite is stupid lite and will be hard to shoot accurately in the field, but I can learn to deal with that and if the lack of weight really proves to be a problem, I'll figure out a way to add weight to the stock. There seems to be plenty of aftermarket options for these guns now, which is nice even though I don't want to have to do anything to it immediately. The bolt slide nicely and didn't have any wiggle. The trigger is reportedly pretty nice. The fluting on the barrel seems like it would be a nice addition to help the barrel cool a bit faster at the range. My concern with the Tikka is that the general build quality didn't seem as robust and long lasting as the AWR.</p><p></p><p>Remington: Is the quality department still on sabbatical at the Remington factory? If it is, I'm not sure I want to gamble with the AWR. The AWR has some really nice features for only being $50 higher than the T3x. The weight is slightly more than I'd like, but there's not any plastic on this gun. The 5R rifling is enticing, but that's pointless if there's something wrong with the gun. The triggers apparently are not actually adjustable down to 3 or 3.5, whatever Remington says it is. I've only seen people reporting they got it down to slightly below 4lbs. Very nice stock, pillar bedded, all cerakoated, 5R rifling, tons of aftermarket parts. But, it's a Remington and they have no MOA guarantee.</p><p></p><p>My main issues with the tikka are that I'll eventually buy some replacement bottom metal, I fear I may have to add weight to the stock, and I fear I may end up with one that I have to shoot 10 different types of factory ammo to find a single 1 that it will shoot under MOA.</p><p></p><p>My main issues with the AWR is that Remington's quality department is apparently nonextistent nowadays (wish I would have known before buying my 783) so the likelihood of having something really wrong with it is higher, it's slightly heavier than I'd like, The trigger will need replaced, and I feel like I would likely have to shoot 10 boxes of ammo to find 1 that it shoots well.</p><p></p><p>I plan to make a decision today. Thoughts?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tac-O, post: 1656940, member: 109994"] So.... after remounting my scope and having someone at the range (who was shooting a light 300winmag under 1") shoot my gun, I'm pretty confident that my Remington 783 is a dud. I went back and checked my actual round count, which is 160 rounds. Plenty of rounds to get this barrel broken in and smoothed. I went from at least 12" spread right out of the box to somewhere around 4" at 100 yards after pillar and glass bedding and lots of ammo. I believe I'm done with this gun and will replace it before I waste more time and money on it. So, I've looked around the last couple of days and have been trying to decide between the Tikka t3x superlite ($750 at sportsmans) and the Remington AWR ($800 at cabelas), still in .30 06. My current goal is to be able to reliably take an animal at 400-500 yards. I'd like a gun that is mostly impervious to the elements and is lightweight enough to haul around the mountains for extended periods and is of a quality that it can be hard used and be kept around for years and years. I checked out both in store yesterday. Tikka: I don't like the plastic nature of the tikka, but the trigger guard can be replaced and I can live with cheap looking stock at long as the gun is accurate. The Tikkas seems to have a great reputation for being very accurate out of box. Yes, the superlite is stupid lite and will be hard to shoot accurately in the field, but I can learn to deal with that and if the lack of weight really proves to be a problem, I'll figure out a way to add weight to the stock. There seems to be plenty of aftermarket options for these guns now, which is nice even though I don't want to have to do anything to it immediately. The bolt slide nicely and didn't have any wiggle. The trigger is reportedly pretty nice. The fluting on the barrel seems like it would be a nice addition to help the barrel cool a bit faster at the range. My concern with the Tikka is that the general build quality didn't seem as robust and long lasting as the AWR. Remington: Is the quality department still on sabbatical at the Remington factory? If it is, I'm not sure I want to gamble with the AWR. The AWR has some really nice features for only being $50 higher than the T3x. The weight is slightly more than I'd like, but there's not any plastic on this gun. The 5R rifling is enticing, but that's pointless if there's something wrong with the gun. The triggers apparently are not actually adjustable down to 3 or 3.5, whatever Remington says it is. I've only seen people reporting they got it down to slightly below 4lbs. Very nice stock, pillar bedded, all cerakoated, 5R rifling, tons of aftermarket parts. But, it's a Remington and they have no MOA guarantee. My main issues with the tikka are that I'll eventually buy some replacement bottom metal, I fear I may have to add weight to the stock, and I fear I may end up with one that I have to shoot 10 different types of factory ammo to find a single 1 that it will shoot under MOA. My main issues with the AWR is that Remington's quality department is apparently nonextistent nowadays (wish I would have known before buying my 783) so the likelihood of having something really wrong with it is higher, it's slightly heavier than I'd like, The trigger will need replaced, and I feel like I would likely have to shoot 10 boxes of ammo to find 1 that it shoots well. I plan to make a decision today. Thoughts? [/QUOTE]
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