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<blockquote data-quote="Bigeclipse" data-source="post: 991556" data-attributes="member: 52437"><p>I am by no means an expert but I was in the same position as you so I have asked lots of questions and have done a lot of research on this and will give you some input.</p><p> </p><p>For what you have described...the 308 is the way to go. Less recoil, cheaper ammo... both factory and reloading...longer barrel life. 308 will easily kill out to 400 yards and a good bit further...some will say 600+ yards. For me...anything inside 400 yards and a 308 is the ticket. If you were looking to stretch out to 500+ yards then id probably lean towards a 300 mag.</p><p> </p><p>Now 300wsm and win mag have nearly identical performance with bullets up to 180grains. Above that and I would definitely be looking at the win mag over the WSM for case capacity. Also, bras will be cheaper and easier to find over the WSM. The WSM will typically provide for a lighter/shorter rifle, which some people care about. I actually owned a 300wsm and it shot awesome....BUT reloading 200grainers was difficult due to case length and you couldnt go bigger. Plus factory ammo is a lot more readily available for the 300win mag if you ever needed it. This is just my two cents.</p><p> </p><p>PS the belted part of the win mag is a NON issue for reloading. Some would say it allowed for more chance of case separation (look that up if you dont know what it means) BUT many have developed techniques to avoid this and there are new dies out there which can actually correct the issue. In the days of old...you were lucky to get 3-4 loadings with your bras and 300 win mag, if you follow proper loading technique you can get that upwards of 7 loadings. </p><p>Also worth a note... I loaded for my WSM...that sucker would stretch the primer pockets something awfull only after 2-3 loadings and made them useless. Not sure if this was due to my rifle or something BUT I never had any other pressure signs.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bigeclipse, post: 991556, member: 52437"] I am by no means an expert but I was in the same position as you so I have asked lots of questions and have done a lot of research on this and will give you some input. For what you have described...the 308 is the way to go. Less recoil, cheaper ammo... both factory and reloading...longer barrel life. 308 will easily kill out to 400 yards and a good bit further...some will say 600+ yards. For me...anything inside 400 yards and a 308 is the ticket. If you were looking to stretch out to 500+ yards then id probably lean towards a 300 mag. Now 300wsm and win mag have nearly identical performance with bullets up to 180grains. Above that and I would definitely be looking at the win mag over the WSM for case capacity. Also, bras will be cheaper and easier to find over the WSM. The WSM will typically provide for a lighter/shorter rifle, which some people care about. I actually owned a 300wsm and it shot awesome....BUT reloading 200grainers was difficult due to case length and you couldnt go bigger. Plus factory ammo is a lot more readily available for the 300win mag if you ever needed it. This is just my two cents. PS the belted part of the win mag is a NON issue for reloading. Some would say it allowed for more chance of case separation (look that up if you dont know what it means) BUT many have developed techniques to avoid this and there are new dies out there which can actually correct the issue. In the days of old...you were lucky to get 3-4 loadings with your bras and 300 win mag, if you follow proper loading technique you can get that upwards of 7 loadings. Also worth a note... I loaded for my WSM...that sucker would stretch the primer pockets something awfull only after 2-3 loadings and made them useless. Not sure if this was due to my rifle or something BUT I never had any other pressure signs. [/QUOTE]
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