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<blockquote data-quote="jridgestalker" data-source="post: 1621635" data-attributes="member: 109802"><p>Ok, so i'm pretty much a newbie here... And im sure there will be gasps and quiet whispering going on after my comments.. Thats expected</p><p></p><p> Dont underestimate the Weatherby Vanguard S2.</p><p></p><p> 35yrs ago I purchased an original Vanguard in '06 when the promise of "quaranteed 1.5" groups at 100yds" came out and it has lived up to its promise with every brand (including old handloads that wouldn't cycle in a buddies Win Model 70), weight, and age of ammo put through it. My Nephew uses it now</p><p></p><p> 2 years ago i got into handloading to cut costs and regain some of that accuracy missing in todays factory loads...I also bought another Vanguard (S2) in 6.5x55 Swede.</p><p></p><p>Yup.. Its slow, my handloads are just cresting that 2700fps window with not even the slightest hint of pressure on the brass</p><p></p><p>Penetration? 140gr Sierra in the Swede is penetrating an average of 4" deeper than 165gr Sierra in 06</p><p></p><p> Is it North American? No... Mostly made by Howa in Japan using Weatherbys specifications.</p><p>If someone can tell me how to upload a photo WITHOUT photobucket.. Ill post my 5 shot group at 100... A little larger than a dime with my flyer</p><p></p><p> Bergara? My 2nd boss swears by them, but he also distributes them, so he maybe a bit biased. I will say I havent seen very many in his warranty shop.. Maybe 2 or 3 tops</p><p></p><p> My .02c</p></blockquote><p>Ger34 the Howas have good reputations. I have handled older Remingtons and the current howa, and the quality feels very similar. I handled numerous rifles in my search, and the Howa felt as good as the Fierce Fury, but with a better stock. Howa has a reputation for good barrels also, and a Howa stocked in a Hogue or regular composite stock is.in the 500 or 600 dollar range. Mine was 900 because of the stock and additional features.</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="jridgestalker, post: 1621635, member: 109802"] Ok, so i'm pretty much a newbie here... And im sure there will be gasps and quiet whispering going on after my comments.. Thats expected Dont underestimate the Weatherby Vanguard S2. 35yrs ago I purchased an original Vanguard in '06 when the promise of "quaranteed 1.5" groups at 100yds" came out and it has lived up to its promise with every brand (including old handloads that wouldn't cycle in a buddies Win Model 70), weight, and age of ammo put through it. My Nephew uses it now 2 years ago i got into handloading to cut costs and regain some of that accuracy missing in todays factory loads...I also bought another Vanguard (S2) in 6.5x55 Swede. Yup.. Its slow, my handloads are just cresting that 2700fps window with not even the slightest hint of pressure on the brass Penetration? 140gr Sierra in the Swede is penetrating an average of 4" deeper than 165gr Sierra in 06 Is it North American? No... Mostly made by Howa in Japan using Weatherbys specifications. If someone can tell me how to upload a photo WITHOUT photobucket.. Ill post my 5 shot group at 100... A little larger than a dime with my flyer Bergara? My 2nd boss swears by them, but he also distributes them, so he maybe a bit biased. I will say I havent seen very many in his warranty shop.. Maybe 2 or 3 tops My .02c[/QUOTE] Ger34 the Howas have good reputations. I have handled older Remingtons and the current howa, and the quality feels very similar. I handled numerous rifles in my search, and the Howa felt as good as the Fierce Fury, but with a better stock. Howa has a reputation for good barrels also, and a Howa stocked in a Hogue or regular composite stock is.in the 500 or 600 dollar range. Mine was 900 because of the stock and additional features. [/QUOTE]
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