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<blockquote data-quote="Alex Wheeler" data-source="post: 3060183" data-attributes="member: 101859"><p>Thats not a good way to look at this. In Benchrest we are shooting very different rifles and cartridges. The formats different too. You dont get to decide when you get to shoot in competition. If its blowing and its your relay you shoot. That 10 shot agg is actually 6 or 10 10 shot groups fired across many months, days, and conditions. Piont is, if they shot 3 shots and could pick when to shoot, those aggs would be tiny. To test your hunting rifle which gets much hotter and shoots much slower between shots you would be better off evaluating it with 10 3 shot groups than one 30 shot. That 30 shot is more a test of conditions than the rifle. While I dont go 30, my last 300 prc I had I tested for cold bore 3 shot groups at 1k. I took it out 4 times on different days, layed it on the bipod and shot 3 cold bore. I shot those 4 groups from 3.5 to 4 inches at 1k. Thats what I look for in a hunting rifle. Small 3 shot cold bore groups at distance. I dont care what it would do for 30 at 100 or any other range. Dont even care what 30 would do in Br. We only shoot 5 or 10 at a time. And yes theres a difference in how you tune for 5 or 10. In the hunting stuff you dont tune for tiny, you tune for agg. So in many cases those 10 shot groups are already at the biggest by the first few shots. They wont shoot small for 5 but they wont shoot big for 10. Thats what you want. Stability. But dont test with big groups, use 3 shots but do it multiple times and on different days. Tough to find a 1/4 minute 1k rifle. Sub .5 is realistic. 1/4 at 600 is achievable. I really like to see 1/3 at my max range.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alex Wheeler, post: 3060183, member: 101859"] Thats not a good way to look at this. In Benchrest we are shooting very different rifles and cartridges. The formats different too. You dont get to decide when you get to shoot in competition. If its blowing and its your relay you shoot. That 10 shot agg is actually 6 or 10 10 shot groups fired across many months, days, and conditions. Piont is, if they shot 3 shots and could pick when to shoot, those aggs would be tiny. To test your hunting rifle which gets much hotter and shoots much slower between shots you would be better off evaluating it with 10 3 shot groups than one 30 shot. That 30 shot is more a test of conditions than the rifle. While I dont go 30, my last 300 prc I had I tested for cold bore 3 shot groups at 1k. I took it out 4 times on different days, layed it on the bipod and shot 3 cold bore. I shot those 4 groups from 3.5 to 4 inches at 1k. Thats what I look for in a hunting rifle. Small 3 shot cold bore groups at distance. I dont care what it would do for 30 at 100 or any other range. Dont even care what 30 would do in Br. We only shoot 5 or 10 at a time. And yes theres a difference in how you tune for 5 or 10. In the hunting stuff you dont tune for tiny, you tune for agg. So in many cases those 10 shot groups are already at the biggest by the first few shots. They wont shoot small for 5 but they wont shoot big for 10. Thats what you want. Stability. But dont test with big groups, use 3 shots but do it multiple times and on different days. Tough to find a 1/4 minute 1k rifle. Sub .5 is realistic. 1/4 at 600 is achievable. I really like to see 1/3 at my max range. [/QUOTE]
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