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My new rifle. (lets start with the action)
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<blockquote data-quote="SBruce" data-source="post: 873200" data-attributes="member: 21068"><p>I am with Dr. Vette on this one.</p><p> </p><p>I've got a couple bolt action rifles with clips, they are more hindrance than a help.</p><p> </p><p>They tend to shorten the OAL of our rounds and then we are even more limited in that aspect which you wanted to avoid. With some standard mags, we can get "extended boxes" which is going the direction you're wanting.</p><p> </p><p>We are more inclined to loose, bend, damage or drop in the mud these types of magazines. I've had to backtrack more than once because my spare fell out of my pocket or I inadvertently released the one from the gun.</p><p> </p><p>If they fit relatively flush with the bottom of the stock, they only hold a few rounds; whereas a conventional "bottom metal" floor plate type will usually easily hold 4 and sometimes 5 or 6 depending on the cartridge. Don't take this part to gospel when it comes to the 300 WinMag. I am speaking of 30-06 and smaller.</p><p> </p><p>I know for fact I can reload a conventional mag faster than a single stack detachable. The double stack detachable (like what's on an AR-15) is a different story; they load quite nicely compared to the single stack types I've seen for bolt guns. I don't find those single stack bolt rifle mags easy to load at all, but maybe that's just me.</p><p> </p><p>Last but not least, if we're manipulating our bolts (especially fluted bolts) with one of these detachable mags inserted & unloaded; then the bolt flutes tend to grab and drag across the feed lips, binding the bolt and making a terrible noise in the process. If it's bad enough,<u> it will bend the feed lips</u> of the mag. </p><p> </p><p>This isn't even a consideration with a standard rifle mag. But if we're practicing bolt manipulation and have any pressure on the bottom of the mag.........like pressure from your hand or pack or whatever, that's when this binding problem happens. I've seen it with the last 4 magazines I've had. Some filing on the feed lips remedied it but too much filing and the next thing to happen is we get feeding problems!</p><p> </p><p>IMO, The downs outweigh the ups when it comes to the single stack detachables in a bolt action hunting rifle. I'd stick with the standard hinged floorplate bottom metal. Hunters have been getting by mighty fine with these for years.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SBruce, post: 873200, member: 21068"] I am with Dr. Vette on this one. I've got a couple bolt action rifles with clips, they are more hindrance than a help. They tend to shorten the OAL of our rounds and then we are even more limited in that aspect which you wanted to avoid. With some standard mags, we can get "extended boxes" which is going the direction you're wanting. We are more inclined to loose, bend, damage or drop in the mud these types of magazines. I've had to backtrack more than once because my spare fell out of my pocket or I inadvertently released the one from the gun. If they fit relatively flush with the bottom of the stock, they only hold a few rounds; whereas a conventional "bottom metal" floor plate type will usually easily hold 4 and sometimes 5 or 6 depending on the cartridge. Don't take this part to gospel when it comes to the 300 WinMag. I am speaking of 30-06 and smaller. I know for fact I can reload a conventional mag faster than a single stack detachable. The double stack detachable (like what's on an AR-15) is a different story; they load quite nicely compared to the single stack types I've seen for bolt guns. I don't find those single stack bolt rifle mags easy to load at all, but maybe that's just me. Last but not least, if we're manipulating our bolts (especially fluted bolts) with one of these detachable mags inserted & unloaded; then the bolt flutes tend to grab and drag across the feed lips, binding the bolt and making a terrible noise in the process. If it's bad enough,[U] it will bend the feed lips[/U] of the mag. This isn't even a consideration with a standard rifle mag. But if we're practicing bolt manipulation and have any pressure on the bottom of the mag.........like pressure from your hand or pack or whatever, that's when this binding problem happens. I've seen it with the last 4 magazines I've had. Some filing on the feed lips remedied it but too much filing and the next thing to happen is we get feeding problems! IMO, The downs outweigh the ups when it comes to the single stack detachables in a bolt action hunting rifle. I'd stick with the standard hinged floorplate bottom metal. Hunters have been getting by mighty fine with these for years. [/QUOTE]
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