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<blockquote data-quote="Badgerclaw" data-source="post: 1612883" data-attributes="member: 101780"><p>If I had one caliber to use for the rest of my life it would be a 7mm Rem Mag. I noticed a lot of people mention the 300 Win Mag, and this would deffinately be a close second. Here are my reasons.</p><p></p><p>First, versatility with a wide selection of bullets. On the low end, I could load a 100 gr bullet at stupid velocities for varmints. Or if I ever take someone hunting who is sensitive to recoil, I can make a moderate load with 120-140 gr bullets at about 270 winchester velocities, which will cleanly harvest most north American animals. On the high end, I can push a 168 berger/ 162 eldx/ 160 accubond over 3000 fps or the heavier 175 EH/ 180 vld/ 175 partitions/ 168-175 barnes bullets around 2900 fps, and harvest any animal on the planet with proper shot placement. If you don't believe me, there is a book about a fellow (can't remember his name) who traveled the world killing big game with a 220 swift, that includes Alaskan brown bear. The 7mm Rem is more than enough. </p><p></p><p>Second, price. You can find top of the line 7mm rem brass, or go to any store that sells ammo and scrape up whatever you can find, for cheap. There are a ton of 7mm bullet options as well, not quite as many as the 30 cal, but close.</p><p></p><p>Third, information. There is infante data on this cartridge. If you can think of a 7mm bullet/powder combo, someone has tried it. Cast bullets, someone has tried it (I don't even need to look to know). If your going to get real creative and want to try a smaller bullet loaded in a plastic sabbot, I'm sure someone has done it with multiple bullets out of a 7 mag. </p><p></p><p>Forth, personal experience. This is where my two eyeballs are the only witness, so people may disagree. I harvested my first few elk and deer with a 7 mag. I started to get into reloading when I was 15 or so, and the bug hit me like so many others on this forum. I wanted the next best thing. I thought I would one up the 7 mag with a 300 winchester. The 300 has almost all the same admirable traits as the 7 mag, but a little more knock down power (so I thought). I built a custom rifle in 300 and very quickly realised I needed a scope worthy of the rifle. In came my US Optics ER25. I became proficient out to 1200 yards over the next few years and fell in love with the 300wm. While I like shooting long range, I think the fun part of a hunt is stalking in on a critter, so the next elk and black bear taken with that rifle were shot at pretty close range. The 300 does kill fantastically. A few friends borrowed the rifle for hunts, and it dropped everything the barrel pointed at... but the 7mm dropped everything just as quick. I eventually bought a rifle for an awesome price so I could use the action for a custom build in 28 Nosler (that bug hit me as well). This particular rifle happened to be chambered in 7RM. I figured I might as well shoot it a bit before I tear it apart. At this time it had been two years sense I shot my old trusty 7mm, but my skills had improved exponentially. The rifle shot 1/2 moa and when I started shooting at 600, then 800, then 1000... by the time I got to 1200 yards I was shocked that I ever left the 7RM. Less recoil and better wind fighting capabilities than the 300. I did not tear that rifle apart, and built my 28 nosler on a different action. That 7RM is now my trusty go to rifle if I don't have ammo loaded in the other calibers. Last year it took a wolf at 400 yards, an Elk at 300 and a mule deer at 650. All with the 180gr ELDM at about 2900fps. </p><p></p><p>The 7mm Remington Magnum is not the best at any one thing, but it will do everything well</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Badgerclaw, post: 1612883, member: 101780"] If I had one caliber to use for the rest of my life it would be a 7mm Rem Mag. I noticed a lot of people mention the 300 Win Mag, and this would deffinately be a close second. Here are my reasons. First, versatility with a wide selection of bullets. On the low end, I could load a 100 gr bullet at stupid velocities for varmints. Or if I ever take someone hunting who is sensitive to recoil, I can make a moderate load with 120-140 gr bullets at about 270 winchester velocities, which will cleanly harvest most north American animals. On the high end, I can push a 168 berger/ 162 eldx/ 160 accubond over 3000 fps or the heavier 175 EH/ 180 vld/ 175 partitions/ 168-175 barnes bullets around 2900 fps, and harvest any animal on the planet with proper shot placement. If you don't believe me, there is a book about a fellow (can't remember his name) who traveled the world killing big game with a 220 swift, that includes Alaskan brown bear. The 7mm Rem is more than enough. Second, price. You can find top of the line 7mm rem brass, or go to any store that sells ammo and scrape up whatever you can find, for cheap. There are a ton of 7mm bullet options as well, not quite as many as the 30 cal, but close. Third, information. There is infante data on this cartridge. If you can think of a 7mm bullet/powder combo, someone has tried it. Cast bullets, someone has tried it (I don't even need to look to know). If your going to get real creative and want to try a smaller bullet loaded in a plastic sabbot, I'm sure someone has done it with multiple bullets out of a 7 mag. Forth, personal experience. This is where my two eyeballs are the only witness, so people may disagree. I harvested my first few elk and deer with a 7 mag. I started to get into reloading when I was 15 or so, and the bug hit me like so many others on this forum. I wanted the next best thing. I thought I would one up the 7 mag with a 300 winchester. The 300 has almost all the same admirable traits as the 7 mag, but a little more knock down power (so I thought). I built a custom rifle in 300 and very quickly realised I needed a scope worthy of the rifle. In came my US Optics ER25. I became proficient out to 1200 yards over the next few years and fell in love with the 300wm. While I like shooting long range, I think the fun part of a hunt is stalking in on a critter, so the next elk and black bear taken with that rifle were shot at pretty close range. The 300 does kill fantastically. A few friends borrowed the rifle for hunts, and it dropped everything the barrel pointed at... but the 7mm dropped everything just as quick. I eventually bought a rifle for an awesome price so I could use the action for a custom build in 28 Nosler (that bug hit me as well). This particular rifle happened to be chambered in 7RM. I figured I might as well shoot it a bit before I tear it apart. At this time it had been two years sense I shot my old trusty 7mm, but my skills had improved exponentially. The rifle shot 1/2 moa and when I started shooting at 600, then 800, then 1000... by the time I got to 1200 yards I was shocked that I ever left the 7RM. Less recoil and better wind fighting capabilities than the 300. I did not tear that rifle apart, and built my 28 nosler on a different action. That 7RM is now my trusty go to rifle if I don't have ammo loaded in the other calibers. Last year it took a wolf at 400 yards, an Elk at 300 and a mule deer at 650. All with the 180gr ELDM at about 2900fps. The 7mm Remington Magnum is not the best at any one thing, but it will do everything well [/QUOTE]
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