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Model 700 extraction issue
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<blockquote data-quote="Mike 338" data-source="post: 1518346" data-attributes="member: 41338"><p>Well, I had a guy build me a 338 Norma Magnum from a 338 Win Mag. He opened up the bolt and chambered the barrel. Mind you, at the time, there was only one brass manufacturer (Norma). Under what was to be considered normal loads, I couldn't extract anything. It was terrible. I had to reduce the loads so much that my magnum was running like a 30-30, just to get a case out without a cleaning rod from the business end. I had another guy check out the chamber and he said it was perfect, so... what was the problem? I never found out. Norma brass is notoriously soft. Was that the problem? Well, since nobody else made brass for it at the time, I didn't know. Another thing is the die. Some dies don't size at all around the web. Extraction is spotty. At the time, I didn't know that either so I didn't measure for it. You gott'a check the measurements of the FL die. Dang... I just found a site from a gunsmith that detailed it but can't remember who he is. Anyway... you gun may or may not be perfect. Lapua brass is crazy good. Use that if you can. If you can't, get another brand and try it before you scrap the gun. Also, don't hesitate to try another FL die. Don't set it up for accuracy. Just follow the instructions that come with it and see if it helps. Yes, trim the cases to the recommended range of acceptable length. Cramming a size 11 foot into a size 9 shoe is just dumb. I'd check those pronto (brass make and die) before I even developed an opinion. </p><p></p><p>Personally, I haven't given up on the 338 Norma. I got another barrel and bolt for the origional gun and chambered it in 300 WM. To busy to get it going though. I have a boat load of build parts ready to go for the 338 Norma Mag but I'm waiting for Lapua to actually deliver on their big talk of providing a line of brass for this amazing caliber. Lapua USA say's 2nd quarter of 2019. That's lame. Crap, I could peddle one of those swan novelty boats across the Atlantic faster than that but I digress. BTW, Graf's has Peterson brass a dude can buy today. For you 338 fans, that may well be the ticket.</p><p></p><p>Peterson brass... are they awesome or just another pretender. Seriously... what brass maker doesn't clam "match grade". Heck... I've seen "match grade" peeing contests. Personally... I would love to see an American manufacturer stand a North Euro maker on it's ear but from where I sit... those N. Euro dudes staff their facilities with dudes that get it and here... not so much. Luckily... or not so lucky... with all the Euro migration infestation... the build quality will crap out to American standards very soon. Hey... happy days. America gets back into the fight because North Europe has been "stanked up". </p><p></p><p>Oh... and not one good gun has been produced.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mike 338, post: 1518346, member: 41338"] Well, I had a guy build me a 338 Norma Magnum from a 338 Win Mag. He opened up the bolt and chambered the barrel. Mind you, at the time, there was only one brass manufacturer (Norma). Under what was to be considered normal loads, I couldn't extract anything. It was terrible. I had to reduce the loads so much that my magnum was running like a 30-30, just to get a case out without a cleaning rod from the business end. I had another guy check out the chamber and he said it was perfect, so... what was the problem? I never found out. Norma brass is notoriously soft. Was that the problem? Well, since nobody else made brass for it at the time, I didn't know. Another thing is the die. Some dies don't size at all around the web. Extraction is spotty. At the time, I didn't know that either so I didn't measure for it. You gott'a check the measurements of the FL die. Dang... I just found a site from a gunsmith that detailed it but can't remember who he is. Anyway... you gun may or may not be perfect. Lapua brass is crazy good. Use that if you can. If you can't, get another brand and try it before you scrap the gun. Also, don't hesitate to try another FL die. Don't set it up for accuracy. Just follow the instructions that come with it and see if it helps. Yes, trim the cases to the recommended range of acceptable length. Cramming a size 11 foot into a size 9 shoe is just dumb. I'd check those pronto (brass make and die) before I even developed an opinion. Personally, I haven't given up on the 338 Norma. I got another barrel and bolt for the origional gun and chambered it in 300 WM. To busy to get it going though. I have a boat load of build parts ready to go for the 338 Norma Mag but I'm waiting for Lapua to actually deliver on their big talk of providing a line of brass for this amazing caliber. Lapua USA say's 2nd quarter of 2019. That's lame. Crap, I could peddle one of those swan novelty boats across the Atlantic faster than that but I digress. BTW, Graf's has Peterson brass a dude can buy today. For you 338 fans, that may well be the ticket. Peterson brass... are they awesome or just another pretender. Seriously... what brass maker doesn't clam "match grade". Heck... I've seen "match grade" peeing contests. Personally... I would love to see an American manufacturer stand a North Euro maker on it's ear but from where I sit... those N. Euro dudes staff their facilities with dudes that get it and here... not so much. Luckily... or not so lucky... with all the Euro migration infestation... the build quality will crap out to American standards very soon. Hey... happy days. America gets back into the fight because North Europe has been "stanked up". Oh... and not one good gun has been produced. [/QUOTE]
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