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MOA rifles vs true custom build
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<blockquote data-quote="J E Custom" data-source="post: 1299145" data-attributes="member: 2736"><p>Not speaking for the other smiths on this site, But a total custom should cost between $2,000.00</p><p>and $3,000.00 dollars unless the person wants lots of special parts. Working up loads is also very expensive if a person wants the builder to do this and can drive up the price considerably.</p><p></p><p>Buying a factory rifle that will consistently shoot 1/2 MOA is also a risk because some will and some won't. Most good gunsmiths start there accuracy guaranty at 1/2 moa as the minimum requirement and most can/do build a rifles that will shoot 1/4 MOA or better.</p><p></p><p>I have seen and even worked on some 6 to $8,000.00 rifles and they had the same or less quality parts that any true custom has and did not shoot any better than many $2500.00 custom rifles.</p><p>in fact the owner had to use there loads, or there high priced rifles would not shoot under 1 MOA.</p><p></p><p>To me the absolute top price anyone should pay for a first class custom build is $4,000.00 dollars.</p><p>from there all you are paying for is the name.</p><p></p><p>Factory rifles are just that, they can shoot very well or be real turds the chance is always there.</p><p>I have worked on and accurized many factory rifles and the one thing that was consistent with all of them was that they all had some degree of issues that could have been better even though some shot well they still need truing in some form or the other. PS; After they were accurized they ALL shot better than before.</p><p></p><p>There are some very good/accurate factory rifles that can be bought for less than $1400 to $1500 dollars but there is no guaranty that you will get one. It is great when you do and would make anyone happy.</p><p></p><p>For this game, 1/2 moa is not good enough in my opinion and 1/4 MOA is a good starting point for</p><p>distances over 1,000 yards. To be competitive, at 1,000 yards and more, most rifles have to shoot 1/10 tenth MOA (Less than .100 thousandth of an inch at 100 yards.</p><p></p><p>Personally, I would be stunned if any of the top smiths on this site charged any more than $5,000.00 Dollars for there best work. </p><p></p><p>The reason I posted on this was not to start an argument, I just didn't wont new people to think they had to pay $8,000.00 to have a Custom rifle built. I am retired and have no dog in the hunt</p><p>So my comments are based on experience and value.</p><p></p><p>Just some comments.</p><p></p><p>J E CUSTOM</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="J E Custom, post: 1299145, member: 2736"] Not speaking for the other smiths on this site, But a total custom should cost between $2,000.00 and $3,000.00 dollars unless the person wants lots of special parts. Working up loads is also very expensive if a person wants the builder to do this and can drive up the price considerably. Buying a factory rifle that will consistently shoot 1/2 MOA is also a risk because some will and some won't. Most good gunsmiths start there accuracy guaranty at 1/2 moa as the minimum requirement and most can/do build a rifles that will shoot 1/4 MOA or better. I have seen and even worked on some 6 to $8,000.00 rifles and they had the same or less quality parts that any true custom has and did not shoot any better than many $2500.00 custom rifles. in fact the owner had to use there loads, or there high priced rifles would not shoot under 1 MOA. To me the absolute top price anyone should pay for a first class custom build is $4,000.00 dollars. from there all you are paying for is the name. Factory rifles are just that, they can shoot very well or be real turds the chance is always there. I have worked on and accurized many factory rifles and the one thing that was consistent with all of them was that they all had some degree of issues that could have been better even though some shot well they still need truing in some form or the other. PS; After they were accurized they ALL shot better than before. There are some very good/accurate factory rifles that can be bought for less than $1400 to $1500 dollars but there is no guaranty that you will get one. It is great when you do and would make anyone happy. For this game, 1/2 moa is not good enough in my opinion and 1/4 MOA is a good starting point for distances over 1,000 yards. To be competitive, at 1,000 yards and more, most rifles have to shoot 1/10 tenth MOA (Less than .100 thousandth of an inch at 100 yards. Personally, I would be stunned if any of the top smiths on this site charged any more than $5,000.00 Dollars for there best work. The reason I posted on this was not to start an argument, I just didn't wont new people to think they had to pay $8,000.00 to have a Custom rifle built. I am retired and have no dog in the hunt So my comments are based on experience and value. Just some comments. J E CUSTOM [/QUOTE]
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