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Minimum Velocity needed for hunting games at extreme distances
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<blockquote data-quote="yobuck" data-source="post: 1690951" data-attributes="member: 12443"><p>Well I don't recall exactly, but i think it's over 10 years that the (extreme) distance segment of this site originated.</p><p>Also as i recall Broz was very instrumental in getting it started.</p><p>Early on there were some very excited (followers) who were convinced that the stories of extreme distance kills would be rolling in, and i remember a few being vocal about that.</p><p>Problem is it hasent happened. That's not to say it couldn't, but from what I've seen it hasent yet.</p><p> But can we believe it hasent been tried numerous times?</p><p>About 5 years ago and maybe a bit longer, Broz and i got into a discussion on this site about long shots on game. I was not ashamed to admit that my longest shot was 1200 and a few yards with a 7x300 Weatherby. I also said I wouldn't attempt another that far with that gun based upon what i had seen. Broz admitted that his longest at that point was that very year on an Antelope at about the same distance, with as i recall a 300 Win Mag.</p><p> Before the discussion was over Shawn had gotten involved, and after some pressure from me said his longest was 1600 and some change. Again, there was no admission or pressure placed on anybody to say that longer attempts hadnt been made. </p><p>Over the last 15 or so years, i have personally sat behind hunters using very accurate 338x378s and 338x416s using 300 gr SMKs leaving the muzzle at 3000+FPS. Ive watched 5 bucks get hit in good locations at distances of 900 to 1400 and just walk away as though they were never even touched. </p><p>Now they all died, and none went over 100' or so till that happened. But without spotters using very good glasses, what might have been the outcome?</p><p>Ive been hunting long range exclusively for about 50 years in what is no doubt some of the best area in the east. I can no doubt name 100 serious others i either know or have known who hunt the same way including some record holding 1000 yd shooters. That said, i have only known 2 who even claim to have killed a deer at 1 mile in PA. </p><p>One of my best friends did kill a cow Elk in Colorado at 2000 yds with a 36" barreled 30x378 bench gun using a 220 SMK. My son was sitting behind him calling shots with his large tripod mounted glasses. It took a few shots to get the right input, and 1 shot did kill the Elk on the spot although not instantly.</p><p>The day before at the same place was a totally different story however as numerous shots were essentially all over the place due to wind, and they finally just gave up and left with the Elk still there.</p><p> He has never expressed a desire to try it again.</p><p>If the OP were really serious, he would talk with a person like say Bruce Baer, who has been building long range guns for decades, and not be asking questions on websites.</p><p> He would probably very diplomatically attemp to talk some sense into your head. Lol</p><p>But he would also be saying that for the distance your thinking about you need a 300 gr bullet and preferably larger, leaving the muzzle at at least 3200 FPS and preferably more. </p><p>And I'd bet if you would ask Shawn Carlock, he would be saying the same thing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="yobuck, post: 1690951, member: 12443"] Well I don’t recall exactly, but i think it’s over 10 years that the (extreme) distance segment of this site originated. Also as i recall Broz was very instrumental in getting it started. Early on there were some very excited (followers) who were convinced that the stories of extreme distance kills would be rolling in, and i remember a few being vocal about that. Problem is it hasent happened. That’s not to say it couldn’t, but from what I’ve seen it hasent yet. But can we believe it hasent been tried numerous times? About 5 years ago and maybe a bit longer, Broz and i got into a discussion on this site about long shots on game. I was not ashamed to admit that my longest shot was 1200 and a few yards with a 7x300 Weatherby. I also said I wouldn’t attempt another that far with that gun based upon what i had seen. Broz admitted that his longest at that point was that very year on an Antelope at about the same distance, with as i recall a 300 Win Mag. Before the discussion was over Shawn had gotten involved, and after some pressure from me said his longest was 1600 and some change. Again, there was no admission or pressure placed on anybody to say that longer attempts hadnt been made. Over the last 15 or so years, i have personally sat behind hunters using very accurate 338x378s and 338x416s using 300 gr SMKs leaving the muzzle at 3000+FPS. Ive watched 5 bucks get hit in good locations at distances of 900 to 1400 and just walk away as though they were never even touched. Now they all died, and none went over 100’ or so till that happened. But without spotters using very good glasses, what might have been the outcome? Ive been hunting long range exclusively for about 50 years in what is no doubt some of the best area in the east. I can no doubt name 100 serious others i either know or have known who hunt the same way including some record holding 1000 yd shooters. That said, i have only known 2 who even claim to have killed a deer at 1 mile in PA. One of my best friends did kill a cow Elk in Colorado at 2000 yds with a 36” barreled 30x378 bench gun using a 220 SMK. My son was sitting behind him calling shots with his large tripod mounted glasses. It took a few shots to get the right input, and 1 shot did kill the Elk on the spot although not instantly. The day before at the same place was a totally different story however as numerous shots were essentially all over the place due to wind, and they finally just gave up and left with the Elk still there. He has never expressed a desire to try it again. If the OP were really serious, he would talk with a person like say Bruce Baer, who has been building long range guns for decades, and not be asking questions on websites. He would probably very diplomatically attemp to talk some sense into your head. Lol But he would also be saying that for the distance your thinking about you need a 300 gr bullet and preferably larger, leaving the muzzle at at least 3200 FPS and preferably more. And I’d bet if you would ask Shawn Carlock, he would be saying the same thing. [/QUOTE]
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