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Mil-dot or not: Mil adj. or MOA?
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<blockquote data-quote="Scot E" data-source="post: 566957" data-attributes="member: 10832"><p>What cartridge, bullet and velocity are you running? </p><p></p><p>A lot of guys like that scope but I don't have any personal experience with it. It gets pretty good reviews at optics talk and has enough adjustment to get you where you want to go at 1400 yards. Dead nuts repeatability and toughness are the most important factors though so you don't want to crimp on optics at the distances you are talking about shooting. The more recoil happy gun you have the less I would personally look at the Millett. </p><p></p><p>As far as scopes I would at least get matching reticle and turrets, so MIL/MIL or MOA/MOA. Having a MIL reticle to assist in calling misses then having to dial in MOA is a pain in the butt! </p><p></p><p>Despite what some guys will tell you MOA and MIL are both angular measurements so they can be used exactly the same. Most guys get all tied up in the math but if you are really using them right there isn't any math to do unless you are using the reticle to range targets. And I don't so the math is mostly a moot point for me. </p><p></p><p>On most scopes MIL's are broken down by 10th's so 10 clicks per MIL.</p><p>Each MOA is broken down approximately in 1/4's so 4 clicks per MOA.</p><p></p><p>1 MIL click, 1/10 of a MIL, equals .36 inches. </p><p>1 MOA click, 1/4 of an MOA, equals .26 inches. </p><p></p><p>So 1/10 MIL clicks are courser adjustments by .1 of an inch. Even out to distances past 1000 yards 1/10 MIL clicks aren't too course for hunting purposes IMO. If you shoot the really long stuff then you may find an advantage to the finer adjustments MOA provide. </p><p></p><p>1 MIL equals 3.6 inches at 100 yards</p><p>1 MOA equals 1.047 inches at 100 yards. Many guys just round the clicks to .25 and MOA to 1 which is why for some the math side is easier with MOA</p><p></p><p>I personally like MIL a bit better because it is a lot easier to read a chart that tells me I need to dial 7.2 MIL's compared to needing to dial 24 MOA. Smaller numbers means easier to remember and less chance of mistakes for me anyway. Usually there is more MIL's on 1 revolution of a turret than there is MOA's so that means less turns of the turret which is a time saver and it helps minimize getting lost on what revolution of the turret you are on if your scope doesn't have zero stops. </p><p></p><p>If you want to get into the math of it all, and I would suggest you don't, then you will have to decide what math is easier 1/4's or 1/10's.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Scot E, post: 566957, member: 10832"] What cartridge, bullet and velocity are you running? A lot of guys like that scope but I don't have any personal experience with it. It gets pretty good reviews at optics talk and has enough adjustment to get you where you want to go at 1400 yards. Dead nuts repeatability and toughness are the most important factors though so you don't want to crimp on optics at the distances you are talking about shooting. The more recoil happy gun you have the less I would personally look at the Millett. As far as scopes I would at least get matching reticle and turrets, so MIL/MIL or MOA/MOA. Having a MIL reticle to assist in calling misses then having to dial in MOA is a pain in the butt! Despite what some guys will tell you MOA and MIL are both angular measurements so they can be used exactly the same. Most guys get all tied up in the math but if you are really using them right there isn't any math to do unless you are using the reticle to range targets. And I don't so the math is mostly a moot point for me. On most scopes MIL's are broken down by 10th's so 10 clicks per MIL. Each MOA is broken down approximately in 1/4's so 4 clicks per MOA. 1 MIL click, 1/10 of a MIL, equals .36 inches. 1 MOA click, 1/4 of an MOA, equals .26 inches. So 1/10 MIL clicks are courser adjustments by .1 of an inch. Even out to distances past 1000 yards 1/10 MIL clicks aren't too course for hunting purposes IMO. If you shoot the really long stuff then you may find an advantage to the finer adjustments MOA provide. 1 MIL equals 3.6 inches at 100 yards 1 MOA equals 1.047 inches at 100 yards. Many guys just round the clicks to .25 and MOA to 1 which is why for some the math side is easier with MOA I personally like MIL a bit better because it is a lot easier to read a chart that tells me I need to dial 7.2 MIL's compared to needing to dial 24 MOA. Smaller numbers means easier to remember and less chance of mistakes for me anyway. Usually there is more MIL's on 1 revolution of a turret than there is MOA's so that means less turns of the turret which is a time saver and it helps minimize getting lost on what revolution of the turret you are on if your scope doesn't have zero stops. If you want to get into the math of it all, and I would suggest you don't, then you will have to decide what math is easier 1/4's or 1/10's. [/QUOTE]
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