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<blockquote data-quote="SilentlySoaring" data-source="post: 1863610" data-attributes="member: 104889"><p>A few years ago I was finally able to travel out of Oklahoma for my first elk hunt with my son, and his college frat brother as our guide. The safe had plenty of choices for us for an elk hunt...a pair of 300 Wby Mags, 270 WSM, a 30-06, and a 264 Win Mag. </p><p></p><p>There is a long story behind the 264 WM, much too long to share here, but it was my choice. I had bought the rifle in 1968, at 14 years of age, with plans to use it hunting deer in OK, AR, MO and KS, but mainly to take on an elk hunt someday. Little did I know that it would be almost 50 years before that elk hunt would happen. My son took his 300 Wby Mag. </p><p></p><p>Our 'guide' was excited when we arrived as he knew where 'the herd' was, and we had a few more hours of daylight. We changed, packed up, grabbed our rifles and went out to "buck up" a big hill. (I heard that term over and over while we were there. LOL) A few miles later we slowly crept out of the trees atop said hill. (My watch showed that we had climbed 80 stories.) </p><p></p><p>In the valley below were approximately 200 elk grazing on this sunny afternoon. We ranged them at 460 to about 700 yards. As I got set up on a big rock, our 'guide' asked me what I was shooting. When I told that I had brought a 264 Win Mag he asked my son to let me use the 300 Wby Mag. I declined, as I knew that I had enough gun for this shot setup. Instead, he decided we should back off and go to one of the two passes this herd uses to get to where they will bed down at night. As you might guess, the elk herd went to the other pass that evening.</p><p></p><p>Back at the ranch house we ate dinner and our 'guide' asked to look at my rifle. I told him the story about it, and he asked to see the cartridge. When he examined it he said '****, that's as big as my 300 WM!' I told him that it's the same brass necked down to 6.5 caliber (264). </p><p></p><p>He had never seen or heard of that round. He then said that he should have let me take that shot. That in his mind I had brought something "under-powered". At the range we go to in OK they have asked us to put up paper and stop shooting the steel on the 300/400/500/600 yard berms. That they are having to replace them because of the holes we're punching in the 'animals'. </p><p></p><p>I guess my point is to say that there are choices. That some of us think we know what is an acceptable choice for a certain animal at a certain range. And some of us are bull headed and will shoot what we want to shoot. Had I taken the suggestion to use the 300 Wby Mag, my first elk hunt would have ended 4 hours after arriving in the Unit. Had he known more about the gun that I brought, my first elk hunt would have ended 4 hours after arriving in the Unit. </p><p></p><p>But it's your money. It's your hunt. Do your due diligence and take a caliber adequate for the game and likely range of shot. Take it a step further and ensure you have the right bullet(s). (I had taken both Accubonds and Partitions with me.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SilentlySoaring, post: 1863610, member: 104889"] A few years ago I was finally able to travel out of Oklahoma for my first elk hunt with my son, and his college frat brother as our guide. The safe had plenty of choices for us for an elk hunt...a pair of 300 Wby Mags, 270 WSM, a 30-06, and a 264 Win Mag. There is a long story behind the 264 WM, much too long to share here, but it was my choice. I had bought the rifle in 1968, at 14 years of age, with plans to use it hunting deer in OK, AR, MO and KS, but mainly to take on an elk hunt someday. Little did I know that it would be almost 50 years before that elk hunt would happen. My son took his 300 Wby Mag. Our 'guide' was excited when we arrived as he knew where 'the herd' was, and we had a few more hours of daylight. We changed, packed up, grabbed our rifles and went out to "buck up" a big hill. (I heard that term over and over while we were there. LOL) A few miles later we slowly crept out of the trees atop said hill. (My watch showed that we had climbed 80 stories.) In the valley below were approximately 200 elk grazing on this sunny afternoon. We ranged them at 460 to about 700 yards. As I got set up on a big rock, our 'guide' asked me what I was shooting. When I told that I had brought a 264 Win Mag he asked my son to let me use the 300 Wby Mag. I declined, as I knew that I had enough gun for this shot setup. Instead, he decided we should back off and go to one of the two passes this herd uses to get to where they will bed down at night. As you might guess, the elk herd went to the other pass that evening. Back at the ranch house we ate dinner and our 'guide' asked to look at my rifle. I told him the story about it, and he asked to see the cartridge. When he examined it he said '****, that's as big as my 300 WM!' I told him that it's the same brass necked down to 6.5 caliber (264). He had never seen or heard of that round. He then said that he should have let me take that shot. That in his mind I had brought something "under-powered". At the range we go to in OK they have asked us to put up paper and stop shooting the steel on the 300/400/500/600 yard berms. That they are having to replace them because of the holes we're punching in the 'animals'. I guess my point is to say that there are choices. That some of us think we know what is an acceptable choice for a certain animal at a certain range. And some of us are bull headed and will shoot what we want to shoot. Had I taken the suggestion to use the 300 Wby Mag, my first elk hunt would have ended 4 hours after arriving in the Unit. Had he known more about the gun that I brought, my first elk hunt would have ended 4 hours after arriving in the Unit. But it's your money. It's your hunt. Do your due diligence and take a caliber adequate for the game and likely range of shot. Take it a step further and ensure you have the right bullet(s). (I had taken both Accubonds and Partitions with me.) [/QUOTE]
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