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<blockquote data-quote="esshup" data-source="post: 2940763" data-attributes="member: 11101"><p>I would go with a .308, light weight bullets for practice and at a reduced velocity. Then do load development work for a 130 grain Barnes TTSX or a 150g Barnes TTSX at a faster velocity for him to hunt with. When he pulls the trigger on a deer he won't notice the increased recoil. The big thing is little recoil and muzzle blast for practice. He will be able to use that rifle/caliber for deer, bear and moose. Sierra makes a 110 grain bullet, at 1500 or so fps that should be very mild recoil and minimal muzzle blast. Heck, I bet you can run them barely supersonic with Trail Boss powder. I am shooting the 190g Hornady Sub-X bullet at 1015 fps with 9.5g of Trail Boss.</p><p></p><p>Putting a good partition style muzzle brake on it will also mitigate a tremendous amount of recoil, but increase the muzzle blast and noise.</p><p></p><p>In response to the posts about using a .243, a friend has a bad right hand where the thumb joint has a lot of arthritis. I have a .243 that weighs right at 6 pounds with scope. sling and full magazine. I also have a 7mm Allen Magnum that weighs 11.5 pounds in hunting trim. I had him shoot both rifles. 180g 7mm bullet pushed by 110g of powder moving at 3350 fps with a medium painkiller brake from Kirby vs. an 85g .243 bullet pushed by IIRC 46g of powder going 3250 fps (no brake). My friend said that to him the muzzle blast was much greater with the 7mm AM, but the recoil was the same or slightly less with the 7mm Allen Magnum. So, a full house .243 load might not be one for a small kid. </p><p></p><p>With the ballistic programs out there now, the OP can easily figure out how much recoil there will be with a given rifle/load. Throw a good muzzle brake on it (if the child can tolerate the extra muzzle blast and noise) and you can cut those recoil numbers. Doing a quick check, the .243 generates 12 ft lb of energy at 11.3 ft/sec. The 7mm Allen without the brake generates 28.7 ft. lb of energy at 12.4 ft/sec. So the Painkiller brake cuts recoil by more than half.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="esshup, post: 2940763, member: 11101"] I would go with a .308, light weight bullets for practice and at a reduced velocity. Then do load development work for a 130 grain Barnes TTSX or a 150g Barnes TTSX at a faster velocity for him to hunt with. When he pulls the trigger on a deer he won't notice the increased recoil. The big thing is little recoil and muzzle blast for practice. He will be able to use that rifle/caliber for deer, bear and moose. Sierra makes a 110 grain bullet, at 1500 or so fps that should be very mild recoil and minimal muzzle blast. Heck, I bet you can run them barely supersonic with Trail Boss powder. I am shooting the 190g Hornady Sub-X bullet at 1015 fps with 9.5g of Trail Boss. Putting a good partition style muzzle brake on it will also mitigate a tremendous amount of recoil, but increase the muzzle blast and noise. In response to the posts about using a .243, a friend has a bad right hand where the thumb joint has a lot of arthritis. I have a .243 that weighs right at 6 pounds with scope. sling and full magazine. I also have a 7mm Allen Magnum that weighs 11.5 pounds in hunting trim. I had him shoot both rifles. 180g 7mm bullet pushed by 110g of powder moving at 3350 fps with a medium painkiller brake from Kirby vs. an 85g .243 bullet pushed by IIRC 46g of powder going 3250 fps (no brake). My friend said that to him the muzzle blast was much greater with the 7mm AM, but the recoil was the same or slightly less with the 7mm Allen Magnum. So, a full house .243 load might not be one for a small kid. With the ballistic programs out there now, the OP can easily figure out how much recoil there will be with a given rifle/load. Throw a good muzzle brake on it (if the child can tolerate the extra muzzle blast and noise) and you can cut those recoil numbers. Doing a quick check, the .243 generates 12 ft lb of energy at 11.3 ft/sec. The 7mm Allen without the brake generates 28.7 ft. lb of energy at 12.4 ft/sec. So the Painkiller brake cuts recoil by more than half. [/QUOTE]
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