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<blockquote data-quote="MudRunner2005" data-source="post: 1337371" data-attributes="member: 12995"><p>I have been shooting them for over 5 years. And no, I don't compress the powder...I shoot .015" off the lands and load as a single-shot.</p><p></p><p>A couple years ago Bryan Litz (Berger Bullets) won his first ever 1K yard competition with a custom .308 Win with Berger 215 Hybrids.</p><p></p><p>The trajectory on them actually isn't as bad as you would think... From a 100 yard zero, I'm only dropping 355.3 inches at 1,000 yards, or 33.9 MOA, or 9.9 MILs.</p><p></p><p>Now, we compare them with some quick calculations on a drop chart using the new Berger 140 Elite Hunter which has a .310 G7 BC, and we'll say 2,700 fps MV (highest speed given at max charge in the Berger manual) and from a 100 yard zero, you drop 325.1" at 1000, or 31.0 MOA, or 9.0 MILs</p><p></p><p>However, the .308 Win with the 215 Hybrid still holds 1464 FPS and 1023 ft.lbs. of energy, while the 6.5 Creed with the 140 Elite only holds 1452 FPS and 655 ft.lbs. of energy at 1000 yards.</p><p></p><p>So, other than the extra 30 inches of drop for the .308 Win, the Creed still loses by 12 FPS and 368 ft.lbs. of energy at 1000 yards, from a 100 yard zero. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite6" alt=":cool:" title="Cool :cool:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":cool:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MudRunner2005, post: 1337371, member: 12995"] I have been shooting them for over 5 years. And no, I don't compress the powder...I shoot .015" off the lands and load as a single-shot. A couple years ago Bryan Litz (Berger Bullets) won his first ever 1K yard competition with a custom .308 Win with Berger 215 Hybrids. The trajectory on them actually isn't as bad as you would think... From a 100 yard zero, I'm only dropping 355.3 inches at 1,000 yards, or 33.9 MOA, or 9.9 MILs. Now, we compare them with some quick calculations on a drop chart using the new Berger 140 Elite Hunter which has a .310 G7 BC, and we'll say 2,700 fps MV (highest speed given at max charge in the Berger manual) and from a 100 yard zero, you drop 325.1" at 1000, or 31.0 MOA, or 9.0 MILs However, the .308 Win with the 215 Hybrid still holds 1464 FPS and 1023 ft.lbs. of energy, while the 6.5 Creed with the 140 Elite only holds 1452 FPS and 655 ft.lbs. of energy at 1000 yards. So, other than the extra 30 inches of drop for the .308 Win, the Creed still loses by 12 FPS and 368 ft.lbs. of energy at 1000 yards, from a 100 yard zero. :cool: [/QUOTE]
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