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<blockquote data-quote="Trickymissfit" data-source="post: 563969" data-attributes="member: 25383"><p>the largest reflector scope is no longer in Russia by the way. It was built as a consortum between European and a couple North American Universities. Is so big that they had to use several mirrors in it. Think it's rated at 214 meters in diameter (might be off a little one way or another). Location escapes me, but it maybe in Chile. There are also a couple others being or are built that are only slightly smaller.</p><p> </p><p>My comments on German gun sights was with reference to tank mounted stuff and aircraft gun sights. The Germans held the record for a one shot kill till the Gulf War in Iraq. It was 3300 meters with a turret kill on a T34 that was filmed. The current record is about 5600 meters using the G.M. / Hughes gunsight mounted on a Challanger II tank. The German hit was with a 75mm PAK 40 mounted on a Marder II or Marder III. The Challanger used a 120mm Sabot. Prior to that there was much speculation about some Isrealie claims of 2000 yards one shot kills on T72 tanks in the Baka Valley. The U.S. even went so far as to send over an investigative team to see if it was B.S. It wasn't.</p><p> </p><p>I've used (and still own) a couple Russian built eyepieces, and they are indeed pretty good. But there are others just as good if not better. You just can't beat the Russian price tag. The Russian scope design is pretty nice (I own one) but won't run with a Teleview or a Takahasi refractor. When you look at deep space photos, you'll find more often than not they are using a good refractor and a high dollar digital camera. (Santa Barbara Optics)</p><p>gary</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Trickymissfit, post: 563969, member: 25383"] the largest reflector scope is no longer in Russia by the way. It was built as a consortum between European and a couple North American Universities. Is so big that they had to use several mirrors in it. Think it's rated at 214 meters in diameter (might be off a little one way or another). Location escapes me, but it maybe in Chile. There are also a couple others being or are built that are only slightly smaller. My comments on German gun sights was with reference to tank mounted stuff and aircraft gun sights. The Germans held the record for a one shot kill till the Gulf War in Iraq. It was 3300 meters with a turret kill on a T34 that was filmed. The current record is about 5600 meters using the G.M. / Hughes gunsight mounted on a Challanger II tank. The German hit was with a 75mm PAK 40 mounted on a Marder II or Marder III. The Challanger used a 120mm Sabot. Prior to that there was much speculation about some Isrealie claims of 2000 yards one shot kills on T72 tanks in the Baka Valley. The U.S. even went so far as to send over an investigative team to see if it was B.S. It wasn't. I've used (and still own) a couple Russian built eyepieces, and they are indeed pretty good. But there are others just as good if not better. You just can't beat the Russian price tag. The Russian scope design is pretty nice (I own one) but won't run with a Teleview or a Takahasi refractor. When you look at deep space photos, you'll find more often than not they are using a good refractor and a high dollar digital camera. (Santa Barbara Optics) gary [/QUOTE]
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