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Lazz 7.21 (.284) Firebird 162-168gr to 1000Y
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<blockquote data-quote="codyadams" data-source="post: 1704816" data-attributes="member: 87243"><p>Don't worry, we have all heard about the magical tank stopping 6.5 creed enough to make us vomit. lol. It is what it is, nothing more.</p><p></p><p>I would agree that there is no factory available ammo that will do what the 7mm and 30 cal Lazzeroni cartridges do, accept say the 300 Norma Mag. However, the majority of people that spend 5k+ on a rifle and also shoot long range handload all their ammunition, and that opens up to cartridges that equal and outperform the Lazzeroni cartridges, and have better/cheaper brass availability if someone is looking for performance in that realm. Wildcats off the 338 Lapua or Norma, or even Cheytac variants come to mind in that category. </p><p></p><p>As far as the 338 and 375 Lazzeroni cartridges, that performance can be done with the standard 338 RUM, 338 lapua, 338 Norma Mag, very close with a 375 RUM, and so on. Wildcats go even farther. </p><p></p><p>Not trying to offend, just my observation as to why you don't see more of the Lazzeroni cartridges around. I think the majority of us here agree that the 6.5 creed and others have been over embellished with their advertising as well as new shooters not fully understanding ballistics. They have their place, they can even be suitable elk cartridges at moderate ranges with proper bullet selection and shot placement, but 1,000 yd+ elk killing with factory hornady ammunition shot from a Ruger american rifle is not it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="codyadams, post: 1704816, member: 87243"] Don't worry, we have all heard about the magical tank stopping 6.5 creed enough to make us vomit. lol. It is what it is, nothing more. I would agree that there is no factory available ammo that will do what the 7mm and 30 cal Lazzeroni cartridges do, accept say the 300 Norma Mag. However, the majority of people that spend 5k+ on a rifle and also shoot long range handload all their ammunition, and that opens up to cartridges that equal and outperform the Lazzeroni cartridges, and have better/cheaper brass availability if someone is looking for performance in that realm. Wildcats off the 338 Lapua or Norma, or even Cheytac variants come to mind in that category. As far as the 338 and 375 Lazzeroni cartridges, that performance can be done with the standard 338 RUM, 338 lapua, 338 Norma Mag, very close with a 375 RUM, and so on. Wildcats go even farther. Not trying to offend, just my observation as to why you don't see more of the Lazzeroni cartridges around. I think the majority of us here agree that the 6.5 creed and others have been over embellished with their advertising as well as new shooters not fully understanding ballistics. They have their place, they can even be suitable elk cartridges at moderate ranges with proper bullet selection and shot placement, but 1,000 yd+ elk killing with factory hornady ammunition shot from a Ruger american rifle is not it. [/QUOTE]
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