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<blockquote data-quote="calling4life" data-source="post: 2398686" data-attributes="member: 48454"><p>I won't have meat to pack out with this giant setup, it'll be pelts at worst, meat would be fall black bear and that's a different amount of gear and weight in the bag, much less and no snow shoes. </p><p></p><p>Snow can be a mixture of problems, even when very cold, set up my tent today in -20 to -25 wind chill, the issue can be your body heat warming things enough to make it matter, then things can turn to ice, so if a bag gets wet enough it has soaked water in, you now have a hard shell, not a pliable bag. </p><p>But if things don't get warm, then the snow can be a non-issue in very cold temps. </p><p>Took no time in my hand for a tent pole to be warm enough when dropped to melt snow then instantly freeze and then not want to go together... </p><p></p><p>No spike camp type stuff for me here. </p><p></p><p>That Stone Glacier and the Seek seem to have the same size (500ci) top lid, I may order that Kifaru top lid as I think it would be another thing I'll use regardless what bag I get, at 1200ci it adds a nice bit of room, and can be had in xpac.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="calling4life, post: 2398686, member: 48454"] I won't have meat to pack out with this giant setup, it'll be pelts at worst, meat would be fall black bear and that's a different amount of gear and weight in the bag, much less and no snow shoes. Snow can be a mixture of problems, even when very cold, set up my tent today in -20 to -25 wind chill, the issue can be your body heat warming things enough to make it matter, then things can turn to ice, so if a bag gets wet enough it has soaked water in, you now have a hard shell, not a pliable bag. But if things don't get warm, then the snow can be a non-issue in very cold temps. Took no time in my hand for a tent pole to be warm enough when dropped to melt snow then instantly freeze and then not want to go together... No spike camp type stuff for me here. That Stone Glacier and the Seek seem to have the same size (500ci) top lid, I may order that Kifaru top lid as I think it would be another thing I'll use regardless what bag I get, at 1200ci it adds a nice bit of room, and can be had in xpac. [/QUOTE]
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