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<blockquote data-quote="Unofficial Gun Addict (UGA)" data-source="post: 994204" data-attributes="member: 81139"><p>Heya BigE... I don't know that there's a right way to ladder test, or the perfect sized dot, or even the right way to work up a load. There are different ideas as to the best way to do a ladder test... But the end result is what everybody who does this Is looking for... Ie a range within you powder range that produces groups with the least amount of vertical variation.</p><p></p><p>You can do this at 100 yards, but honestly... Why bother... The variation is so minute that the information provided would be of less use than that you would get as distance increases, which is generally why people want decreased vertical variance from shot to shot in the first place.</p><p></p><p>The dot size... Well it really depends on what you can see and reliably aim at. If the dot is so large that you aren't aiming at the same point when you shoot, then the data you collect from you ladder isn't going to really reflect what the billets are doing, but what you are doing. If it's so small that you can't see it because your scopes crosshairs are covering it up... Well then... similar problem.</p><p></p><p>I prefer a cross as opposed to dots... That way I can easily see when I am left or right...and high or low of center. It also assists me in making sure my crosshairs are always in alignment from one target to the next.</p><p></p><p>As to whether you aim at a single dot/cross/whateve, or at multiples... It really doesn't matter, as long as you know which bullets come from which loads. If you are shooting at a single target, with lots of bullets, it can get pretty confusing as to which shots came from which loads. This is why the guys above recommend coloring the ogive to mouth of your bullet, different colors for different loads.</p><p></p><p>Guess the point I'm trying to make buddy... Is that there's no one single best way to do this... Only that you find a way that works best for your situation and that you can duplicate or be consistent in your methodology when doing it.</p><p></p><p>You've got a lot of questions which is a good thing... But you seem like you have a good mind as well. Just see this forum for what it is. A place where opinions and expereince are compiled... But in all candor... There's not one best way for everyone to do anything... But a lot of different ways discussed that lead to similar results. Pick one... Try it... Keep, toss out, or modify it... And eventually you will determine a way that works, for you.</p><p></p><p>Good luck haas.</p><p></p><p>-boss</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Unofficial Gun Addict (UGA), post: 994204, member: 81139"] Heya BigE... I don't know that there's a right way to ladder test, or the perfect sized dot, or even the right way to work up a load. There are different ideas as to the best way to do a ladder test... But the end result is what everybody who does this Is looking for... Ie a range within you powder range that produces groups with the least amount of vertical variation. You can do this at 100 yards, but honestly... Why bother... The variation is so minute that the information provided would be of less use than that you would get as distance increases, which is generally why people want decreased vertical variance from shot to shot in the first place. The dot size... Well it really depends on what you can see and reliably aim at. If the dot is so large that you aren't aiming at the same point when you shoot, then the data you collect from you ladder isn't going to really reflect what the billets are doing, but what you are doing. If it's so small that you can't see it because your scopes crosshairs are covering it up... Well then... similar problem. I prefer a cross as opposed to dots... That way I can easily see when I am left or right...and high or low of center. It also assists me in making sure my crosshairs are always in alignment from one target to the next. As to whether you aim at a single dot/cross/whateve, or at multiples... It really doesn't matter, as long as you know which bullets come from which loads. If you are shooting at a single target, with lots of bullets, it can get pretty confusing as to which shots came from which loads. This is why the guys above recommend coloring the ogive to mouth of your bullet, different colors for different loads. Guess the point I'm trying to make buddy... Is that there's no one single best way to do this... Only that you find a way that works best for your situation and that you can duplicate or be consistent in your methodology when doing it. You've got a lot of questions which is a good thing... But you seem like you have a good mind as well. Just see this forum for what it is. A place where opinions and expereince are compiled... But in all candor... There's not one best way for everyone to do anything... But a lot of different ways discussed that lead to similar results. Pick one... Try it... Keep, toss out, or modify it... And eventually you will determine a way that works, for you. Good luck haas. -boss [/QUOTE]
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